Episode 217 - One-Eye Konowitz and No Income

[00:00:00] Hey everybody! Hey everybody! Hey everybody! Go Flix Yourself! Hey everybody, it's another episode of Go Flix Yourself. My name is Ben Konowitz and with me as always is the John Wick 3 to my John Wick, Bradford Oman. Hey that's me. The John Wick 4 to my John Wick, Nate Laughes.

[00:00:31] Hey, that's me. That's a way better Keanu. Brad what were you doing? It's me. It's me Keanu. Yeah. I'm thinking I'm back. Boba, yeah, that's me. I'm gonna need guns. Lots of guns. My dog! Jesus. Oh he ruined it. Wow. I went dark. You did go dark. Shockingly.

[00:00:50] Shockingly sadly dark. But also like really dumb dark. My dog! My dog! Oh no! I have two dogs. Yeah but you're not gonna John Wick if one of them dies. You don't know what I'll do. I'm gonna go back. I'm gonna go back. I'm gonna go back.

[00:01:03] I'm gonna go back. I'm gonna go back. I'm gonna go back. I'm gonna go back. I'm gonna go back. I'm gonna go back. You don't know what I'll do. I will tell you right now, I am incapable of doing even anything.

[00:01:18] If somebody straight up murdered Millie and I love that dog to the end of the earth, I would be so upset and I'd be like there's nothing I can do. There's physically nothing.

[00:01:28] I would fall down trying to run after a guy or I own a handgun it's in my safe. I would get the gun out and shoot myself in the foot literally. Like I'm so fucking inept in every way these days.

[00:01:39] A hundred pounds ago I could have done some damage. These days your boy been sitting on the couch on the sidelines. But it does make me feel better that you have a gun. I'm the kind of guy that should.

[00:01:49] I'm on the other end of the spectrum for that one. What would you do? You want me on that one. No, no, I don't feel good about been having a gun. You want me on that wall. You need me on that wall. I will sit on that wall.

[00:01:59] I will be humpedy-dumpedy on that wall. The only wall you're sitting on is the Great Wall of China, Chinese restaurant. Fair enough. I'm sitting on the wall burgers. Because I like burgers. Hey guys, it's called Flix Yourself. It's a movie podcast. We're having fun.

[00:02:15] The reason I chose John Wick this week is because there isn't really a bad John Wick movie and I'm in a good mood and I like you guys today. At least none of us were John Wick 2 which is probably the worst in the bunch. And that's why.

[00:02:27] But John Wick 2 isn't terrible. It's so great. Honestly, I still really like that movie. It's not bad. Yeah, exactly. But I would have felt bad if he made me John Wick 2. Yeah, you would have been like, ooh, the one with Common? Would you have felt that?

[00:02:37] But actually, Common's pretty good in that role. I'm not going to lie. That's true he is. What? Would you have felt disrespected? Little disrespected? Yeah, I felt a little disrespected. I still would have felt pretty good though. Disrespected.

[00:02:47] Speaking of John Wick, I don't know if you've heard, but Full Tilt Arcade here in the Port of Indiana has the new John Wick pinball machine from Stern Pinball. The other reason that I brought it up because we just got that bad point, it's actually really cool.

[00:03:00] I attended the launch party for about a week and a half, two weeks ago. And I placed, technically I placed six in the tournament, but the person who got fifth wasn't there. So I got a cool coin from the Continental.

[00:03:12] Yeah, we gave away Continental gold coins as prizes if you made the top five. So now I have a coin where I can get a gun. Or dispose of a dead body. Yes, or buy a drink. A bulletproof suit? Or buy one drink.

[00:03:25] It's not really like clear how much the coin is worth. It can get you things though. It can get you amazing things. I would think that disposing of one dead body would be $100,000. But then also he buys common a drink. Right.

[00:03:39] And that is worth $1750 at a Manhattan bar. But to be fair, at the Continental they probably have some of the best, like, you know... You're not wrong. It could be like, you know, it could be a Pappy Van Winkle or something like that where it's like $1,000 a bottle.

[00:03:51] Yeah, it could be Rip Van Winkle whiskey and you wouldn't know. But still, disposing of a body and buying somebody a drink should cost different amounts. I agree. Okay, as long as we're on the same page there. Yeah.

[00:04:03] Because the universe of John Wick makes a lot of sense. But that's one thing where I'm like... Okay. Yeah. Question. Did you guys watch the Continental TV show? What, I got time on my hands? No, I did not. It's a TV show, Nate.

[00:04:17] We literally before the podcast were watching TV shows. This is a movie podcast. Yeah, but then your favorite actor's in it. Who's my favorite actor? Mel Gibson. Oh, fuck, I forgot he was in it. Well now I'm gonna go out of my way.

[00:04:30] Are you talking about the director of Hacksaw Ridge? Yeah. Oh, the one and the same? Uh-huh. Yeah, no, I'll be there. All right. The star of Fat Man? Yep. Okay. You got it. All right. The star of what else? Leave the weapon. Why is he ruining this?

[00:04:45] I don't even know what he's doing. Yeah, we're having a good time. We're hearing something. What did I do guys? You're fine, buddy. Nate. Oh, I was gonna ask you for the sponsor, but it's actually Brad who I'm looking at. Brad, can I bring the sponsor next time?

[00:04:58] Sure. You acted like that was a thing that could never happen, but it's very easy. Okay, good. The rules are very loose. Are you going to do it though? Because then Brad doesn't bring one and then you'll forget that we don't have a sponsor this week.

[00:05:12] There's a good chance I might forget. Yeah, but also don't bring something stupid like just Lay's potato chips. That would be actually hilarious. He just goes out and buys something he really likes so he can eat it the whole time. I guess that's exactly what you were doing.

[00:05:22] Guys, I brought shredded mini-weets. You know what? No, Nate, you can't bring the sponsor actually. Now that we figured out your rules. You fucking jagaloon. Guys, let me ask you something. What's your favorite way to eat pork? Oh my God. I don't know.

[00:05:41] I'm going to say with my mouth. Not like that, you idiot. What do you want to know? Like, do you like a shredded pork? I like a smoked brisket. A smoked brisket. That's a good answer. I love smoked brisket. I stopped eating bacon. I didn't. What?

[00:05:55] Okay, it's just like. It's like Brad, me and you, firing an all-cylinder. And over here, gummed up the mix. Yeah. You know? Monkey in the wrench. Bacon is processed and it gives you cancer apparently. Jesus Christ. Damn it down or over here.

[00:06:11] What the hell is wrong with you? I saw on Instagram, man. Is everything okay at home? No. I like pulled pork a lot. Okay, more than bacon? Yeah, evidently, bacon kills you. But when I understand bacon gives me cancer, pulled pork does not.

[00:06:30] And maybe we can get long-time listener Alex Pappas to give some, you know. More of a definitive answer on that. He's up a lot of barbecue restaurant experience. Yeah, he knows. Alex. I think I would go with bacon, but pork belly is very close.

[00:06:44] Pork belly man candy from Smitty Smoking Barbecue is fantastic. I love pork belly. I just love pig. Wow. I do. I mean, just like there's a lot on a pig. Yeah, okay. I was talking off the air about 30 Rock and that reminds me

[00:06:58] of another 30 Rock joke when Jenna comes up to Tracy Morgan and she says, oh, you've just got to like, you've got to do something good to get people back on your side. Like after I ate the pig from Babe. And I was like, what?

[00:07:11] Who thinks of that joke? That's such a good joke. That's so good. I'm going to say that. Well, guys, I got a treat for you. I would hope so. Now here's the thing. I found two shocking snacks on a shelf. I was like, I cannot believe this exists.

[00:07:28] One of them is less shocking than the other one. The other one I was like, how the fuck? Who even, what? Why? Huh? And when you see what they are, you're not going to look at the front of the bag, but you'll know what it is once

[00:07:39] you grab something out of the bag. Don't tell me what to do. I'll tell you everything. We'll save that one for last because that's the other one. So I'm going to open this other one first. Make sure you grab yourself a nice little.

[00:07:48] I might annoy by the sounds tonight. A little bit from this bag. Ben, do you ever get annoyed with the sounds? Don't look at the front. Only look at the back. You'll know what it is as soon as you see, you know, what it is.

[00:08:03] Don't look at the front. Only the back. Oh, is this an elephant ear pork rind? Kind of. Whoa. Hmm. I don't know that I like that. Actually, it's very good. It's a cinnamon. It's a cinnamon sugar pork rind. Yeah. So it's an elephant ear pork rind.

[00:08:24] You know what pork rinds are good for? Nothing. Nope. They're, they're, if you're ever on a low carb diet, pork rinds are no carbs. That's true. They're very good, very good snack. So a lot of people that are on low carb eat.

[00:08:38] I was with them off that way. Those are fantastic. This probably has carbs though because no, it only has one dietary carb. That's really good. Probably has a lot of sugar though. No, sugar's carbs. Yeah, but the sugar content is probably more than the carbs. No, it's only.

[00:08:52] No, that's not how that works. No, you can't just have like, how much sugar is in it? Sugar becomes carbs. One gram, that's it. One gram of sugar? Yeah. No. Yeah, for six, there's six, so there's six servings per

[00:09:02] container, so there would be six grams of sugar in this whole thing. Really? Yeah. Well, that is impressive. That's amazing. I am shocked at that. No, I would actually get these because I don't like pork rinds typically, but these are good.

[00:09:12] My favorite pork rinds are barbecue pork rinds, but these are really good. These are great. I wasn't sure how it would feel about a sweet pork rind, but here we are. What's interesting about these two is they have a little

[00:09:23] bit of the charcoal taste to them at the end as well. Now, we have one more here. This is the one that I was very surprised by, so don't again, don't look at the front. Why were we brilliant? We had a good thing right there.

[00:09:36] Why do we have to try something else? Wow. Is this like a fruity pebble? No, it's not fruity though. All right, listeners. It's not fruity at all? I'm putting the pork rind in my mouth now. Wow. I am shocked by how good these are.

[00:09:57] I hate you so much. You know that drives me up a wall. This is very surprising. Okay, what does it mean? All right, the total carbons on this is well-granted. Oh my God. Old timey butterscotch. Oh, these are good. Where'd you get these from?

[00:10:14] I found them at Walmart. I didn't even see anybody post about these before I found them. I just stumbled upon them at the store. Let me just interrupt. For me and the listeners, we're going to be in this right here. No one fucking cares.

[00:10:26] This is, you guys are acting like this is the most incredible find in the world. These are fucking fine. They taste, they're like, oh it's a little cinnamon. Oh my God. I was so surprised. I went in, I almost, I pissed a little. It ran down.

[00:10:44] I was wearing cargo shorts and a little boy said, mommy that man's peeing. And I was like, yes, Johnny or whatever your name is. I was surprised at the pork rinds at Walmart. Oh for the love of fuck. Let's move on.

[00:10:59] But let me tell you what the brand name is. Oopso Rinds. No, it's Pork King Good. Okay, that's pretty good. Got them. Yeah, these are Pork King Good pork rinds that I found at Walmart. They have two sweet flavors. They also had a white cheddar.

[00:11:15] They had some other flavors as well. I'm very impressed by these. These are really good. I wasn't expecting the pork flavor to blend well with butterscotch or cinnamon sugar, honestly. But they're very good. I'm very pleased by this. Again, they're fine.

[00:11:30] I think you're just upset that we appreciate good snacks. They have a birthday cake. Can you bring that one sometime? They have a birthday cake. They didn't have that one at Walmart. Yeah, and they have an apple cinnamon. Oh, God damn. Pork King are doing the Lord's work.

[00:11:43] Oh, Pork King are doing the Lord's work. I would also do the salted butter. Okay, that sounds interesting. What about pepperoni pizza? Oh, they're going crazy over there at Pork King. They're making good decisions. Over there at Pork King, they're going crazy. Man, that's a good, good choice.

[00:12:00] All right, well yeah, keep an eye out for these at Walmart. They're in the connection with all the other pork rinds and the chip style. Keep them. I'm going to get some of these. North West Indiana, so there's a lot of pork rinds to choose from.

[00:12:11] That's actually very true. Don't hate all the pork rinds again. Low carb people. You know that you can do microwave pork rinds the same way you can do microwave popcorn? I don't want to. I haven't done it, but you can do it.

[00:12:22] There's some sort of thing that would pop like a popcorn? Yeah, you could come in the microwave apparently. No. That's not a seed though. It's not a kernel. I don't know how it works. I just know that it takes the fat and expands it. That's what it does.

[00:12:36] Fair enough. I don't claim to know the science. I'm just a messenger. I just claimed to be a fan. So yeah, there you go. Porking good pork rinds. See if you can find them at Walmart. All right. And follow you on Brad's Junk. Yeah, look at Brad's Junk.

[00:12:49] Check out my Junk guys. Look at Brad's Junk on Instagram. You'll find a lot of posts about new snacks. I haven't posted about these yet because I was waiting to try them. And now I'm going to make a great fucking post about these.

[00:12:59] Well thank you Pork King for donating all the money to sponsor this episode. How good are they? Porking good. They're porking good. Brad, what's the last movie you saw, man? Oh, that's a good question actually. Well, the last movie I saw was actually A Night at the Roxbury

[00:13:13] because I rewatched it for our Saturday Night Live podcast which is called The 10 to 1 Podcast. And if you want to hear us talk more about that movie you can do that over at that podcast. Okay. It should be available now. One of us liked the film.

[00:13:27] Actually one of us loves the film. One of us has loved the film since they were an adolescent. One of us doesn't. And one of us pretty much hates the film. Brad's is wrong here. It's a bad movie. I at least found it a little funny.

[00:13:41] Nate hates it and thinks it's the worst thing. I feel the Roxburn. That's not a thing. It is now. It's an embarrassment to us as a country on the week of 4th of July that we allow this movie to exist. How dare you?

[00:13:53] When the focus of the movie is brotherly love. The film, sorry. Let's do it better. Let's just do a better film. Do it better. America. So that was the last movie I saw. Before that, the last movie I saw, I believe, was Beverly Hills Cop 3.

[00:14:17] I actually rewatched all three of the Beverly Hills Cop movies in anticipation of Axl F. I actually have a screener of it waiting for me as we write. I probably watched it by the time this episode is out because July 3rd is when the movie hits Netflix, I

[00:14:33] believe. Here's the thing. I had seen Beverly Hills Cop the original several times before. I realized I had never seen Beverly Hills Cop 2. I had only seen some clips from it and I knew I had never seen Beverly Hills Cop 3, but I knew that it was notoriously bad.

[00:14:51] I'll go back to the beginning. Beverly Hills Cop, great. Wonderful. Funny. Opens with a hell of a car chase. I was very surprised by how good that car chase was. I didn't remember it being that big. The action never really reaches that pinnacle again.

[00:15:06] They should have saved some for the middle, I think. The second movie, which is directed by the late great Tony Scott, is also very good on par. This one, instead of going with a big chase, goes for more shootouts. The action's a little better because it's a

[00:15:22] Tony Scott movie. Still very funny. The third one is absolute dog shit. It's hard to make a movie that bad. I don't say this to exaggerate. This movie is downright terrible. The drop in quality is astounding. This movie is rarely funny. It looks awful.

[00:15:45] It looks like it was shot for the cheapest budget imaginable. The story is very bad. Bunker's nonsensical. Very bad. It's so thin. Yeah, it's just... They're counterfeiting money using printing presses at a theme park. Yeah, it makes zero sense. The villain is not intimidating or interesting at all.

[00:16:07] I was floored by how bad this movie was. They don't give him much to do that's funny. No, not at all. That's the problem with this movie. Not at all. The funniest thing that happens is when he meets a surge again.

[00:16:20] And even then, that has diminishing returns already. Can't wait for Alex to laugh then. I'm sure it's got to be better than this. It would have to be just a total disaster for it to not be better than Beverly Hills Cop 3.

[00:16:31] At least in the trailer for Axl F, it looks like they're very much leaning into more of a bad boys vibe. Yeah. Whether it's action heavy. And like you said, there's always been action in these movies. But this seems like, oh, hold onto your hats. There's action.

[00:16:44] It made me... And then there's going to be a couple of jokes here and there within the action. I kind of felt vindicated because I was like, yeah, I was right. There's not like... There aren't any huge action set pieces throughout the entire Beverly Hills Cop movie.

[00:16:55] There's usually like one big one and that's it. This film was not a cheap film, right? I mean, it was a $70 million budget in 1993. Yeah. And it had... Which is $150 million today. And it had a lot of production problems.

[00:17:08] They actually had to stop production for a little while to kind of like retool things, figure out how to do it. There was talk about how Eddie Murphy was apparently very difficult to work with at the time because this was like kind of around the height

[00:17:19] of his fame, but he was also like not doing great. Like his movies weren't doing very well at this time. Him and John Landis did not get along well together on the... I didn't know this story behind John Landis. John Landis sucks. What a dick.

[00:17:32] Oh yeah, he's a piece of shit. Wait, I'm... This is not a bit. Tell me. You really don't know? I really don't know. Oh. Well, so the biggest thing is... You know the story about Twilight Zone in the movie?

[00:17:42] If you don't, I just learned about it today actually. So that's a whole thing like that by itself isn't enough to be like... I didn't know that was John Landis' fault though. Oh, it's... I just heard that somebody died on the set of... No, it is 100% his fault.

[00:17:56] You know we talk about the Alec Baldwin thing all these kind of things. This is not that at all. This is John Landis'... So give me the 30 second what happened on Twilight Zone with why John Landis was responsible. Basically he didn't allow for the safety precautions

[00:18:10] to be in place for this scene to happen and like the rushed production and like him being a fucking arrogant prick and like that kind of thing just resulted in things not being done thoroughly enough to keep people safe and people died because of it.

[00:18:24] Here, let me read a section for you from the Wikipedia. I said 30 seconds. But no. So again this was a huge lawsuit, right? And this went to court. This is obviously we were just young boys at this time but like during the take three hours before the incident

[00:18:38] Wingo, a veteran of the Vietnam War who was the one driving the... or flying the helicopter told Landis that the fireballs were too large and too close to the helicopters to which Landis responded he ain't seen nothing yet with special effects and explosions blasting around them

[00:18:54] the helicopter descended over the three actors that died witnesses testified that Landis was still shouting for the helicopter to fly lower, lower moments before it crashed. Good God. And everyone... Did he go to jail? No. There was a whole trial but no.

[00:19:13] He was not convicted or given a jail time or anything. The Civil Suit movie studio paid big bucks and he still then directed more movies. Two of the three were kids. Jesus Christ. Children. That that's... adults dying is bad enough but that's... The heads chopped off by the...

[00:19:30] Are you shit? By the blades of the helicopter. Now this is embarrassing for me because I like movies. I can't believe you never heard about this today. No, like I said, I knew one person died. That's all I thought happened.

[00:19:42] I did not know their heads were cut off by helicopter blades. One of them actually got smashed by the helicopter but the two had their heads chopped off by the helicopter blades. Okay, so then after this is all settled out of court whatever.

[00:19:57] John Landis goes on to direct what? I mean everything since 1984 I think was the Twilight Zone movie there. So still obviously had his whole John Landis career ahead of him. Yeah, Clue three amigos coming to America, Innocent Blood, Beverly Hills Cop 3, Blues Brothers 2000 which we will do.

[00:20:16] Oh boy. Yeah, I mean he did a time... When did he die? He's still alive. Oh, he can go fuck. I'll correct that. 1983, yeah, it was the Twilight Zone movie so... Has he ever, ever, ever done anything? Of course not, he can't because if he says anything

[00:20:33] that goes against it then it negates... Sorry, has he ever, ever gotten... Do people praise him at all? Does Steve Martin go, I loved working with John Landis on three amigos, you know? Oh, I mean I'm sure like people who had good experiences

[00:20:47] working with him on movies, you know, will praise that aspect because you can't deny that he made some good movies. For a guy that murdered three people. Right, exactly. No but aside from that, he's kind of just like a notorious asshole just a real piece of shit.

[00:21:02] Like a real ret-ratner. But also seems to not really care, right? Yeah, it does not care. It's exactly why his son may actually... I understood that a little bit more. Oh, I forgot about that Steve. Right? That circle, what a piece of shit.

[00:21:15] Because Max Landis doesn't seem to care. Yeah, exactly. They're both cut from the same shitty cloth. Narciss kind of, yeah. But yeah, so Beverly Hills Cop 3 was just abysmal but I enjoyed re-watching the first one and watching the second one for the first time

[00:21:28] and we'll see how Axl-F is. So I remember thinking in the first one when he plays a gay man coming into a restaurant and he says that he needs to talk to somebody about AIDS. You remember that scene? Oh, yeah. He's trying to get to...

[00:21:48] He's trying to infiltrate so he can get... He's trying to get into a country club to talk to Victor Maitland and he says that he needs to tell him about... I gotta tell him about some test results. And I remember when I was younger finding that hilarious, right?

[00:21:59] Yeah. Just because it's a silly voice. Right? And then as I got older I understood the 80s and the AIDS epidemic and how brutal that joke is. But still funny. It's still... I wondered when you just watched it now, I mean, that kind of joke can age okay?

[00:22:16] Because it's a sign of the times or whatever. Yeah. Was it still funny? I mean, it's funny in the sense that like it's awkward because he's revealing very personal information about this fictional character that he's created. It could be anything as a placeholder book

[00:22:30] because it was the time. Yeah, exactly. And there's almost a little bit of like a reasoning for it because just before that scene he has an exchange with Damon Wayans who plays like one of the hotel employees and Damon Wayans is putting on a very effeminate voice.

[00:22:46] And so it's almost like he took a cue from like a person he interacted with and decided to turn that into a character for his police deception. Gotcha. So it kind of works in that way. But yeah, I mean Damon Wayans is also

[00:22:58] notorious for doing a couple effeminate characters as well. So when they did the movie review, the critics. Yeah. Of course. So I also watched... Those movie critics? Hated Beverly Hills Cup 3. But you know what? They loved Nett at the Roxbury. Ah, go fuck yourself. No, nobody...

[00:23:18] Go flicks yourself actually. I also watched A Quiet Place Day 1 and wow, this movie is supremely impressive for being the third movie in a franchise. It would have been very easy for this one to like phone it in. I forgot there was a sequel already.

[00:23:36] Especially because it's a prequel. You know, like you don't expect much. But what they do with the human characters in this movie really adds like a whole other level to it even more so I think than the first two. Just the dynamic they create. Lupin and Yungo's character

[00:23:51] and what happens with like Joseph Quinn's character and their meeting and like it's just a very... good use of characters and putting them in this universe where this disaster happens and of course the monster stuff is what you expect. It's very suspenseful. It's intense.

[00:24:06] But it's surprisingly well done. I was really impressed by Joseph. How does Joseph Quinn do? Because I feel like he's rising into the ranks of a leading man kind of... Absolutely. He's fantastic in this movie. I wasn't really super familiar with his work until Stranger Things Season 4. Same.

[00:24:21] But yeah, he's got quite... I don't remember. Did you watch Stranger Things Season 4? I did. He's the heavy metal guy. Oh! Yeah. But Eddie. Yes. Yeah, but he seems to be a heartthrob. People love him and... Yeah, kind of along the same lines of Joshua Connor in Challengers,

[00:24:39] the one who's always at Mike Face. Gotcha. Funnily enough, I found out just how rabid his fanbase is because I made the mistake of... You knew he was working fun? No, I knew... I know who Joseph Quinn is but I had to... I was like,

[00:24:52] when I was typing the name, I typed Joseph O'Connor because I was thinking Josh O'Connor. It just got the names flip-flopped. And so my tweet praising the movie says Joseph O'Connor. And it got retweeted by people who also didn't realize because obviously I'm not the only one.

[00:25:07] But his fans certainly noticed. Oh yeah, they were hateful. They were most of the guys just like, oh yeah, Joseph O'Connor, great actor. One person though, I will give total credit for because what they did is they were like, they made an incredible Photoshop mashup of combining

[00:25:23] Josh O'Connor and Joseph Quinn into one person and it looked fantastic. That's awesome. Did you reply to him? Like, that's great. No, I actually... I liked it and I took the time to say that's a great mashup. But yeah, everyone else can go fuck themselves.

[00:25:38] But Joseph Quinn is... Also, you know what, Brad, you're a professional journalist. Do better. No, trust me, I know. One of the stars of the new Gladiator film that's coming out. Yeah, see, I'm not sure if it's the new Gladiator film that's coming out.

[00:25:50] Yes, he is in Gladiator. I feel like he's his career is building. He's in Gladiator also. Okay, well, you know, not all the jokes work. Don't I know it? All the time as I sit here brushing poor crying crumbs brushing poor crying crumbs off a couch

[00:26:05] that has never been cleaned. Well, that's not true. This couch has never been cleaned. Ever? Ever. None of this down here. You guys are sitting in absolute filth. This needs to be burned. Nothing down here has never been washed. We're kind of at the point

[00:26:21] of no return now. Why would you clean it now? Yeah, much like Bridget Fonda. You know, speaking of Bridget Fonda, you famously told me when you assigned my movie to me last week. Famously I did. You said that Bridget Fonda and point of no return

[00:26:38] is absolute dog shit. Compared to compared to the movie you assigned me, which was The Long Kiss Good Night. Now, Bridget Fonda in point of no return, I'm sure is fine. I have no qualms about that film. I just love The Long Kiss Good Night

[00:26:53] so much from my childhood. That was one of the first movies that me and my mom watched together and bonded over. Oh. It's, it holds a nostalgic value for me. And also it's an incredibly fun movie and Gina Davis is gorgeous in it. Sam Jackson is hilarious.

[00:27:12] It's a great movie. So in that way, Bridget Fonda can go die in a fire. Roger Ebert agrees with you because he also says I married as an example of craftsmanship. But what a lot of time and money just spent on something of no real substance.

[00:27:26] Yeah, it's a throwaway premise movie. Wow. But it's an incredibly well done one. Well, much like Roger Ebert's comments about an Eye of the Roxbury were flat out wrong. And you can hear more about that in the 10 to 1 podcast. Roger Ebert's comments here are also wrong

[00:27:42] because The Long Kiss Good Night is incredible. Isn't it awesome? This is a great fucking movie. Like this is the movie I love to see. I'm so happy. I've not seen this. The kind of movie that I'm so happy to see that I missed in the 90s

[00:27:55] and like watching it now just brings me all sorts of like joy. It's directed by Rennie Harlan. It follows... For the listener, Rennie Harlan did also... Die Hard 2. Die Harder. That's it. Pretty much it. No, he did Cliffhanger. He's done a lot of big action movies lately.

[00:28:12] Not so many great things, but... 90s action movies were down. A big 90s action movie. World War I here on Elm Street 4. Thanks, Nate. Cool. Just continuing... Always knows how to bring the room down. Here's the shitty facts. Rennie Harlan ran over a squirrel in 2006.

[00:28:28] He did go to jail, I think, for a tax evasion. Tax evasion, but that's not the bad kind of jail. I'm surprised Nate didn't tell us that. Him and John McTiernan were cell buddies, all mates. MC Hammer. Wesley Snipes. Taxes. Taxes. But no, so this follows Gina Davis

[00:28:44] as a woman. She's a housewife with a husband and kid. She seems like she's kind of a big deal in her town. There's a Christmas pageant going on, and she's like the woman alongside Santa Claus in and everything.

[00:28:56] And then all of a sudden, from her past comes around that she used to be this crazy deadly spy. What's interesting is that they set up that there's got to be something weird that's about to happen before they even reveal that

[00:29:10] because the way she talks about her life is so strange. She describes herself as only being born eight years ago because she has amnesia and had no idea who she was and still doesn't know anything about her past.

[00:29:21] And so what she comes to learn is there's this entire persona of when she was a deadly spy slash assassin. I mean, this was Jason Bourne before Jason Bourne. Yeah, for sure, for sure. And so all of a sudden, she's getting chased by more deadly people.

[00:29:36] She starts to remember. She has these cool, very heavy metal almost-esque flashes of her badass assassin self threatening her own new person self. Get your shit together, Brenda! And oh my god, like Ben said, Gina Davis has never been sexier.

[00:29:54] I was like, oh, I guess I like redheads. I imagine that when I had that thought. I imagine if I saw this movie when I was a kid, it would have been very influential on my coming of age. That's pun intended.

[00:30:08] But she's just incredibly badass and super hot in this movie. Yeah, athletic, tall, beautiful, but also so assertive and skillful. Just the whole package. And also I didn't realize that Samuel Jackson was kind of a half-assed sidekick where he's not fully in

[00:30:28] where he's like he's not having it. He's like, no, fuck this. No, I'm fucking out. And the poster makes it seem as like he is her sidekick and with her. But no, he's not about all this at all. And he's not the best guy. No.

[00:30:41] He's just kind of a fuck around guy. Speaking of a fuck around guy, man, Craig Bjerko knows how to play just a real asshole. But yeah, it's funny, Rennie Harlan likes to use a lot of the same, like oh, it's that guy actor.

[00:30:53] And they always play versions of Secret Service or Private Security and stuff like that. You would definitely know a lot of them if you saw them from the last game. Do you remember?

[00:31:03] I think I've actually said this line on the podcast before, but do you remember the line that he says at the end in the interview with Larry King? I don't think I remember the line. Larry, with women, I'm always Frank and Ernest.

[00:31:14] In some cities I'm Frank, in other ones I'm Ernest. Actually, he's just in Chicago, I'm Frank, in New York, I'm Ernest. I mean, that's just classic dad joke level, but it's so good. No, that's good. That's good. But yeah, I love this movie.

[00:31:27] I'd be wanted to watch for a while because I heard how good it was and thought, yeah, I'm glad you find this. If you assign this to me, I might be mad one day. But I was reading while you guys were talking because I typically don't listen.

[00:31:37] But honestly, there have been so many times and let's actually take a second to address that. There have been so many times where we make like salient points over here and then we turn you or point out something cool. And then you mention it a few seconds later.

[00:31:53] Five minutes will go by sometimes. And by the way, that dress went up for auction at Christie's auction house and raised $5 million for charity. And like, Brad's like, I just fucking say, and it's a very specific thing.

[00:32:04] So then all this means though is that I look at you too much. I need to start looking at you more Nate so that I can be like, hey, hey, stop it. I got an ADHD. Yeah, clearly. But I wanted to say this because it's an important part.

[00:32:18] Did you want to say that Sam Jackson is in this film? No. Gina Davis says this is the favorite film. This and Thelma were her favorite characters she ever played. Yeah. Sam Jackson says it's his favorite film of his to watch. Yeah. Makes sense.

[00:32:33] And Renny Harlan says it's his favorite film that he's ever made. So that's pretty good. Written by? Shane Black. Yeah! Oh, I somehow missed that. Did you really miss that? Yeah, that's awesome. Yeah, isn't that great? Makes perfect sense now. But all these things together makes me excited.

[00:32:49] Nate, this is a Christmas movie. Christmas movie. Yeah? I made it? Yeah, you're going to love it. Now you're going to watch it even though we don't give it to you. You didn't have to say the same thing. Yeah, I love it. Watch it.

[00:32:59] You'll probably watch it now. Yeah, in anticipation of July's Christmas. Yeah, I've got, I've got, I've got, I've got a phone. You're good. Go ahead, talk about, talk about stuff. What are you doing? He's going to watch the movie right now. Are you updating your Zenga?

[00:33:10] No, he's watching the movie. Oh, okay. That makes sense. Those are all the movies I saw. But hey, hey, Nate, I watched a TV show. Nope, nope, nope, nope, Nate. What's the last movie you saw, buddy? If we, you know what?

[00:33:24] Just like parents taking the kids home, we, if we have time, we'll stop for McDonald's. If we have time, but right now we're going to stay on pace and we're going to talk about the last movie you saw, buddy.

[00:33:34] I watched season three of The Bear and it was great. Oh my God. That's all I'll say. Season three of The Bear, it's fantastic. Don't listen to people who are bitching about it because like... This happens on all successful shows.

[00:33:46] It's just not as good as the first two seasons. Here's the thing, I will say that that is accurate. If you were to compare the three seasons, this is the worst of the three seasons, but it is still... But don't say like that. It's not the worst.

[00:33:59] It's just like, it's just... The worst implies that it is bad. No, I know. That's why I want to clarify though. A lot of people are saying that like it is the worst season of the three, but it is still fantastic prestige television.

[00:34:11] It's like instead of a 99 and 98, this is a 96. It's still really fantastic. It takes some interesting swings and like does some creative moves that you might not expect and that you might not fully understand at first, but to me... The Bear is now a hotel.

[00:34:26] To me it all made sense. It does something really beautiful with the characters. It loses some of the things that you might have loved about the first two seasons, but I think for a good reason. You'll understand that when you watch it. But yeah, fantastic performances, great soundtrack.

[00:34:40] Love the story. They still say cousin a lot. Cousin. Honestly, not as often. Alright, well I'm out. And for that reason, I'm out. But there are some really fun cameos. Is Oliver Platt in the... He is. I love him. These are some funny shots of shit.

[00:34:59] Let me just real quick, let's just talk about Oliver Platt and how much I love him. I love Oliver Platt on the same level. When I see Oliver Platt pop up in a film, it gives me the same joy as when I see Stanley Tucci.

[00:35:15] Or when I see Mandy Patinkin. It gives me that level of, oh, I haven't seen him in a while. This is going to be great now. Tony Shalub. A lot of times. These are very similar actors where I see them and I go, yes.

[00:35:28] I'm going to enjoy this performance. Oh yes, I'll agree with that. That might not be the best movie, but I'm going to enjoy the performance. Yeah, I agree with that wholeheartedly. I love Oliver Platt. Nate, did you watch the third season of The Bear? Like me and Brad?

[00:35:43] No, I haven't watched that yet. You haven't watched it, Ben. I thought we were talking about TV shows. Now you don't want to talk about it? Fine. You didn't watch it? Well, now we don't have time to talk about it because you don't want to talk about it.

[00:35:52] You told me you didn't watch it. I lied. Did you though? I lied again just now. Oh yeah, that's what I thought. Nate, what's the last movie you saw, buddy? The last film that I... Maybe quicker than this. Yeah. Watched.

[00:36:06] I'm going to go with this because I'm pulling a brad. How many Sundance sad movies did you watch before you get to talking about bad boys ride or die? No, no, no. I'm talking about just like I always stall for time when I forget what I'm talking about.

[00:36:18] Yeah, because you've watched 19 Sundance films. Let me... I watched Flowers for the Incredible Man and it was just an exploration. It's a French film, all subtitles. It sounds good. All right. So I saw three films this week. The first one...

[00:36:37] It's actually called Plum de Encribla, that's how you pronounce all that French. The first film, let me talk. It was a film called Inside Out 2. I took my son to the film and loved it. Only Finn? Only Finn went. No one else wanted to go?

[00:36:54] I asked Harry to go and he did. I wanted to go and Nora, my daughter is at the University of Michigan in the summer and she's a sophomore scholar program which made me even sadder. I dropped her off. She's skipping her junior year.

[00:37:08] She's becoming a senior after a sophomore year. It's interesting the way this journey echoes what happens in Inside Out 2. Spoilers? I haven't seen it. Doesn't spoil anything. Does she skip a grade? No, but her parents take her to drop her off somewhere. That's what I'm saying.

[00:37:26] There was sort of emotional resonance for me because I dropped her off at college. Now, she's coming back for her senior year, so I'm not dropping her off for good. But I dropped my daughter off for school and she has this, my daughter has this very firm

[00:37:39] conversation with me on her way. Dad, A, you're not going to call me by my nicknames. You know, like no, because I call her peanut, I call her punk, I call her all these things. When you drop her off? Yeah, she's like that. Punk's a good one though.

[00:37:51] Yeah. Peanut's too cute. That's fair. Like I call her Toots and Muguts. I can't call her that. Use it in context. So like when you drop her, alright peanut, I'll see you later. Okay, punk, I love it. But how do you use punk?

[00:38:03] So punk was started when she was a baby. It was pumpkin. Then went to pumpkin. Now it's for the last, she's 16. I do the same thing with my dog so I get it.

[00:38:12] It's reminding me of the office though when Michael Scott is like this is Mitha Rajas and he's like, actually his name is Daryl. And he's like Daryl Rogers is like no, Daryl Philbin, then Regis Philbin, then Reg, then Raj. That's exactly how it happens. Then Mitha Rajas.

[00:38:27] That's probably the most accurate thing. Because I had a dog named Lucy that was loose goose, that was goose. Then for some reason became goosefrabra and then Frabis, Frabis Pallabis. Oh my God. And then from Frabis Pallabis became labis and I was like, who's a labis?

[00:38:46] Who's a, what am I doing? Wow. Yeah. So yeah, exactly. So I actually, I call Nora at the arcade. She's an employee of the arcade. I call her labis. That makes sense. Now I call her punk. You call her punk.

[00:39:00] So, so typically like tonight I text her, hey, how's it going punk? That is the one I call her most. If I see her and I'm joking with her, I'll call her toots and goots. But anyway, so she has this conversation with me.

[00:39:13] Don't, don't, don't say those things right dad because she's like, you know, we're going to this thing. I'm trying to project that we're really cool. Wait, she's trying to predict that you and her are really cool? Cool people? Yeah.

[00:39:26] I'm like, here's the thing that you don't know about me. Nora and you're going to learn is my coolness is innate. I don't have to pretend. Right. Now, now they driving up to drop your daughter off at a college program.

[00:39:37] For the listener that doesn't know you, you are six four. Six five. Six five. Sorry. Just with the doctor they mentioned. You have salt and pepper hair that is coiffed and you are clean shaven but it's a little bit of a five o'clock shadow. You dress well. Right.

[00:39:53] You have an air about you that is confident. You're a talented orator. So she's looking at that like that's the dad I want. I want that that handsome devilish grin like impressive dad. I don't want, oh, okay. I'm going to see you later.

[00:40:10] No, I think she wants everything that I'm just not because they're not impressive at all to her. And so like, you know, like, does she know you do two podcasts? In a basement?

[00:40:21] No, here's the problem is she knows both of you yokels and she knows we're not cool. Right? Okay, well I fucking disagree there. All right. You tell her, you know what? I want to have a meeting. Hey, and you tell your fucking daughter that I met Chris Hemsworth.

[00:40:35] I will. I will. And they had an inside joke. Yeah. We shared and locked eyes and had a good laugh. So no, here's the thing is teen daughters, they're the meanest people in the world. She'd be like, oh, you met Chris Hemsworth.

[00:40:45] I bet that was special for you. Yeah. No, and Nora is especially good at that. Oh yeah. How long ago was that? As, as her boss, let me tell you cry. She's mean. She's real mean. I'll say something. Sharp.

[00:40:58] She she claps back quick and then I think about it for a while and that's damaging my ego. It's my hey Nora has your day and she's say, and I'm not going to say what she's saying.

[00:41:08] She'll just say something but it'll just be about maybe how I'm dressed that day. And I'm like, wow. You felt confident going out and then I'll go into the bathroom and look at myself in the mirror and like, damn it. So yeah.

[00:41:21] So we, we go up there and I drop her off and I follow the rules that she lays down. I give her a hug and I don't cry because I'm told not to cry because again, what grown man cries except me every night at around 10 to midnight.

[00:41:34] And so I wait, is that a two hour cry? Depends on the night. Right. Yeah. It's a two hour cry. Is that normal though? Oh. I feel like now I'm the one that should be crying more is a, well, I don't drink a lot.

[00:41:53] And plus you're, oh, there you go. And both your parents are alive. Yeah. No, I drink heavily and both my parents are alive. Yeah. I mean, I just need, I need something to numb it, I think.

[00:42:02] But anyway, so I go around the corner and I should start just like crying because I'm saying goodbye to my daughter and stuff like this is the sign of the times is where we're going in life but also very happy for her.

[00:42:12] So then next day I go and see. Inside out too. That was not a smart decision for you. And I'm just wrecked by this. I am just, I'm sitting with my son who grew five inches this year. Who's getting bigger?

[00:42:26] Who, who tells me on our way there because it's just him and I, he's like, dad, I broke up with my girlfriend. Like you did. And I only met his girlfriend once. Now mind you listeners, he's going into his freshman year.

[00:42:39] So he's just an eighth grade and he has this girlfriend and she's like, yeah, dad, she said she loves me and I broke up with her. He's like, and I'm like, we're 14. We, you know, like what do you know about love? You know what?

[00:42:54] Every time Finn gets mentioned on this podcast, I gain more respect for him. I'm not joking. That is the most like wisdom beyond his years. But that's again, that can be a slightly detrimental only because young puppy

[00:43:06] love when you're that age is normal, you know, but I'm loving that he's able to step outside his life and look at it. But that's also, that's, that's, wow. That's a big thing, man. It gets better. Oh boy.

[00:43:16] And so, and so he's like, I'm having this conversation with her and she starts crying. She's like, I want to build a life with you. Oh boy. Well that's now it's easier to step outside yourself.

[00:43:27] So Finn dead pants and says, dad, I just had to tell her, I've got no means of income. Oh my fucking eye. Oh God damn it. I have no means of income. Stop, stop talking. Oh please, stop talking. Please, please. We cannot build a life.

[00:43:44] A few moments later. Okay, so this seems abrupt. That's because all one iconowitz over here. Listen. He laughed so hard that he bumped his microphone and I'm going to explain to you why I'm calling him one iconowitz because the reason that Ben had

[00:44:00] a little bit of a freak out and like crying with his laughter there is because Ben got surgery on one of his eyelids and right now he's at a point where he still has some stitches in his eyelid and it's uncomfortable and so when he laughs.

[00:44:13] When I close, when I like close my eye hard or I wink or it hurts like a fucking will to be. It is so painful. And so this little tip from Finn. It was so fucking funny that I was, if you could have seen me, I was

[00:44:28] pawing my cheek downwards to keep my eye from closing while still cackling like a hyena somehow. It was just, it was a little embarrassing. And so we think something that happened with like bumping his wires and then like created some kind of a glitch.

[00:44:41] And so we lost a little bit there. I will have the listener know it was good. It was a solid two minutes of joy pain. Yeah, which is the new character from inset out to he was crying from laughing and crying from laughing. So it's my turn.

[00:44:59] Let me get back to my story. Yeah, sorry. So again, so I'm going with I have this experience with my daughter. I'm going with Finn to the theater and I'm feeling the age that I'm becoming. Right. I'm getting old. My kids are getting older.

[00:45:14] And so I watched this film and I love it. I love the new characters. I love the story. The story is compelling as well, right? It's not just like sometimes you could tell, right? That they're that they're creating good characters that

[00:45:28] we love but putting them in just awful stories, right? Because even even though the vehicles for the characters, they're not actually telling the story. Yeah. And even though the story itself does feel a little repetitive from the first movie, it's it does so in such a refreshing way

[00:45:43] with the new characters that like you don't really notice it that much. Yeah. And and I think as well, like. So as you those are listeners that have kids and things that you might even remember what it was like being a middle

[00:45:57] school yourself, you do start having to work through some complex emotions. Emotions didn't have two or three or four years ago. And so I like the idea. I want I can't wait for the next one.

[00:46:06] I hope that they work on other emotions that you start feeling as a high schooler, you know, yeah, because they haven't done like full on romance yet, you know, and that's a whole other complicated thing. More self doubt these guys.

[00:46:19] You know, I mean, there's harder and complex emotions as well. The one thing that I will say that I thought this film was missing. I think I had a lot of emotional resonance, especially for me based on the things I was going through.

[00:46:30] But there was no emotionally resonant scene that actually absolutely crushed me like in the first film being Bong seen that film or that scene there is still for me one of it's a beautiful scene. It's a scene of sacrifices. It is just genuinely just a fantastic scene.

[00:46:51] And I didn't feel like the Bing Bong scene. There was a comparable part to that in this room. Just remind me what being the what's being long. Are you fucking kidding me? I only saw the movie when it came out in 2009 or whatever.

[00:47:04] I don't think Bong, the imaginary friend who dies in the movie. Okay, well, it's like one of the most heartbreaking moments. Bong Bong. If they would have said his name is Bing Bong. If they would have said the imaginary friend that dies.

[00:47:14] I was like, oh, I remember that. I don't know his fucking name is a character name. I'm sorry. You meet somebody named Bing Bong and you forget their fucking name. You don't fuck off. If I would have met up in a single big long in my life that

[00:47:24] you meet you meet a half elephant, half cotton candy person who has a person who has a rocket wagon and his name is fucking the voice of Richard freaking kind. And you forget his name. You you're going to hate me because I forgot I forgot he was an

[00:47:41] elephant and candy cane or what a candy. No, he cries candy corn and other sort of candies. Maybe that's what I remember. You put respect on Bing Bong's name. Like the only reference I have to Bing Bong is the fucking lonely

[00:47:54] and the Bing Bong twins for like 2009 or whatever. That's what I thought. I was like, we're done here. Did you guys not remember the lonely islands? No, no, I know the Bing Bong twins. So but you know what overshadowed it?

[00:48:06] Bing Bong, the imaginary friend that made me cry real tears. You know what Richard kind is an incredible voice actor. He is he really is he voices turtle in American dad. And he always makes me laugh. No, he also Richard kind of just seems like a genuine.

[00:48:23] We are just a nice person. Yeah. Well, I think I agree with you. I do think that there's a scene in the middle that joy has that comes close to having that level of emotional resonance.

[00:48:34] But I do think the Bing Bong scene works for both kids and adults. But the joy scene and inside out to maybe only works for adults because there's one very specific line I'm thinking of that she has.

[00:48:44] And I don't want to say in case I know that line. And I yeah, but yeah, because that one I was like. I mean, you like this from quite a bit too. Yeah, yeah, I love this. Oh, I can't wait to see it.

[00:48:56] Honestly, I haven't been excited for a picture film in a while. I've missed the last three. I didn't see turning red. I didn't see turning. I haven't seen Luca. I haven't seen Luca. You haven't seen soul. No, I saw soul.

[00:49:05] OK, I haven't seen elemental was wish or elemental. OK, soul is the last one. I like your light year. I did see light. We are not actually I forgot to talk about that. I watched that with the boys and Ashley a couple of weeks

[00:49:15] ago and I forgot to mention on the podcast. It's fine. I like the socks. Oh, yeah, socks. Great. Great character. Yeah. So yeah, so you liked Inside Out 2? So Inside Out 2. You cried. What's the... I saw a couple other films. What else did you watch?

[00:49:31] I was very, very rudely assigned to film by my friend Brad. Rudely. Well, first you were assigned to one by Ben because it's a movie that you didn't watch last week. I watched only half of it. But we didn't go through official channels. But I rewatched.

[00:49:47] Yeah, and by the way, fuck you. I'm sorry, Pastor Nate Laugs. But fuck you because honestly, like we it was that how much more official is it if it's on the air? And I tell you in front of the listener, like this is your movie.

[00:50:03] OK, you're just pissed because I didn't follow up. Do you know if I was even listening? That's a fair point. You know what? Overruled. Objects. I'm overruled. You have a natural proclivity to watch your devices instead of being on the podcast. So I'll allow you.

[00:50:24] Well, that's sustained then. No. Oh, yeah. No, it is. Let me actually speak to this. Yeah. For the first time. Court movies. I was going to say, you'd say, lawyer if you were a lawyer, but like court movies. Fuck my eyes. For the first time.

[00:50:36] I can't do this. In my life, I had to test. I got a subpoena and I had to testify in court. Oh. Whoa. For the first time in my life, I was a pretty major thing. Was it as a witness? Or a witness to what? Murder. Murder.

[00:50:50] Our local listeners will know this, but you know, we seem to have a lot more non-local listeners. So this is going to bore you. Mitch, I'm sorry, buddy. Si, not for you. But three hours later. It's a long way to go to not talk about Alien. Yeah.

[00:51:06] So speaking of, he tricked you. Yeah. And it worked. Tom's scared. Listen, easily. Easily strict. Tom's scared. Yes. I was in a show called Picket Fences. Do you guys remember that show? I remember it existing. Yeah, I used to watch Time's Caret with Unpicked Fences with my grandmother.

[00:51:21] So when I talked about Tom's caret last week, it was an honest approach. Cool. He is in this film called Alien with Sigourney Weaver. And I was assigned this film. And this is a, this combines two things that I love. Space. Hold on. Ford, space. Space.

[00:51:39] I want to remind you that you were pissed at Nate going into that conversation. And he used a tricky court story to put you on his side. I am so on his side. He annoyed you. I don't care. I know what happened. I'm cognizant of it.

[00:51:55] And I'm now so on his side that that doesn't bother me anymore. That's how good the trick was. So I'm all rainbows and butterflies over here. And also, it's because he did watch the movie. I watched both films. Yeah, I'm fine.

[00:52:07] I also watched this film, both films with Finn. So this, I mean, I don't think that we need to say for those of you that don't know, but 1979 classic horror. Everyone but me has seen this film. And this was interesting. Right?

[00:52:21] So there's a lot of this film that doesn't age well in these special effects, obviously. Right? This is a film made my night. I disagree for the most part. Oh. When's the last time I saw it? I watched this movie at least once a year.

[00:52:32] There's a couple of things that are puppetry type. No, there's some practical things. The last scene, or the last scene that's say with the alien is cheesy as hell. I don't think it's cheesy. I mean, it's a practical suit.

[00:52:47] But like, it's still, the way it's shot and the way it's lit still makes it look scary. I've never taken out of it and think, oh, that looks like shit. No, it's not bad. Can I say spoiler and talk in specific? Yeah, you're right.

[00:52:59] We can't spoil a 1979 movie at this point. You can. The scene where he's in space and he's trying to get back and he's floating to, that was the worst special effects I think I've seen in the film. It was awful. That's not true.

[00:53:13] I know that's not true because it's no something in the movies you've seen and that's not true. OK, so here's the thing. It was awful. Hold on. Finn even commented, dad, that was bad. Here's the problem with what he's saying.

[00:53:24] He doesn't know this because this is the only horror space movie he's ever seen. He has no concept of contextualizing any of this. There are so many bad space horror movies. So if you thought that was bad, oh my god, bud. This film is good.

[00:53:44] This film is great. I'm saying there were some special effects that haven't aged with that song. It's 45 years old or whatever it is. Or just like the whole idea of like I said. Good quick math. Is it 45? I'm just saying good quick math. Was it actually 45? Oh shit. 1979. 1979. 1999, 2009, 2009, 2019.

[00:54:05] And then five years later. Oh my god, yeah. That was good quick math. I told you. Thanks man. Thanks for coming. That was like an estimation guess. A guess to make sure. Some of the things I liked about this film is a horror film. Let's talk about that.

[00:54:18] I liked that. I like the way that they use sound in this film. It's a really well done, kind of really well placed. There's not a ton of background noise even at times. So they're willing to let the suspense build. And sometimes even when there is some background

[00:54:38] orchestral kind of thing, it's very subtle, very well placed. Almost jaws like. So let me piggyback on that. That is a lost art. In Carpenter's The Thing in Halloween, the suspense is not showing in jaws, not showing the monster. It's the shadows. It's not there. Where is it?

[00:55:03] And yes, a little bit of it is because they didn't have the technology to be like this is a very scary thing that would be scary in the daylight because it's going to look like a puppet. So we have to hide it because of technology.

[00:55:13] But that also lent itself to some of the best horror films ever made because they physically just couldn't fucking show the monster. And then Hollywood lost that idea and said, we can just show it now so we should show everything.

[00:55:25] I love movies that take it back to the quiet place. Great example of it. I think the quiet place kind of reclaims a little bit. Exactly. Because you have to have enough confidence that you can. You're going to build the mystery around it.

[00:55:39] And this is because these are these are suspenseful horror movies, not slasher out now. It really has got obviously a fantastic filmmaker. So he knows what to do with the cinematography, with all the direction to keep your interest. So you don't have to be busy.

[00:55:56] We can cut this, but I want to tell a quick side story about the things opening credits. Do you guys know how those were made? I just saw a TikTok or a YouTube or whatever, a reel about how they did that. And John Carpenter had a fish tank

[00:56:12] that he filled with smoke and then put a stretched, a very thin like three mil black garbage bag over the back of it. And then the letters, the thing were there. And then he lit the letters on fire so that they evaporated kind of.

[00:56:31] And it was all this, we didn't have any money. And that is one of the maybe the most indelible other than Star Wars' scroll. The things, it's incredible. He did that for like, I don't know, 70 cents. That's pretty fun to go.

[00:56:46] Look up John Carpenter talking about the thing, opening credits, it's so fascinating. Anyway. So a couple of other things about this film that kind of made me laugh a little bit about just the how much we've grown for science fiction films is, we figured out cryogenic sleep

[00:57:07] but the screens to figure out what's in space, if you go back and watch what they're trying to see, what's in space, are so very for-bit. Well yeah, because it's the Star Wars problem, right? You're intergalactically traveling but it's a for-bit screen that you're looking for.

[00:57:24] Yeah, your computers can only be as advanced as they are at the time. Yeah, the nice thing about Star Wars is they created a separate world, right? So this is supposed to be the future. Certainly. And there's nothing wrong with it. It's just interesting to think,

[00:57:40] oh, they figured out space travel. But they've not figured out- But at the same time, they've not figured out LCD screens. But at the same time, the only reason you're thinking that though is because you already know those things exist. That's my whole point about- But in 1979.

[00:57:50] In perfectly, right? In 1979 though. Yeah, it was perfectly believable that computers would be what they knew what computers are but that you would still figure out cryogenic sleep based on that because they were still doing groundbreaking things even though they had what you would consider now shitty computers.

[00:58:04] Fuck you now. Side note, sidebar. Sidebar. This is why- The jury will disregard that sentence. In the 80s when Star Trek, the next generation came out, the TV show, why it was so groundbreaking is so much of the technology that didn't exist yet

[00:58:21] that they predicted would exist is in that show. And they did a great job of like with the sci-fi world of actually showing some technology that was all fake but actually ages pretty well because that's really hard for sci-fi, right? It's the 90s but-

[00:58:35] I think it started in the 80s. I'm pretty sure it started in 87 actually. But I don't know. But again, pretty early before- No, the idea that you can actually conceptualize for real what future tech will look like. That's hard because you're predicting. You're predicting what future tech-

[00:58:48] These days if we're gonna talk about what's gonna happen in the future, right? Everything we know now based on the curve everything's just gonna get smaller and faster, right? So your phone and honestly probably for us in the future, more less actual screens

[00:59:02] more like projection, what do they call that? Where it's like you have the Oculus on augmented reality. So you're gonna look at something. I always thought it would be amazing if you go to a battlefield that was in the 1800s

[00:59:16] and what if you had a big screen that was see-through so you could actually see they would recreate the characters of and then place them where that would have actually happened. That's coming, that would be the next thing.

[00:59:29] Let me say one thing that surprised me about this film because I talked a lot about it already but one of the things that surprised me about this film was for some reason in my mind I thought and maybe future films are like this

[00:59:42] I thought this was an action film. Well, you've seen Aliens now, right? Yeah, I have but I thought this was gonna be an action film, right? No, no. Alien, aliens is the action. That's where they start. Alien is the horror film.

[00:59:53] So I watched Aliens and that was kind of my point is I thought Alien was gonna be an action film and it was more horror. It's a horror. Friday the 13th, like- It's called horror. Yeah, I know but it was more of like a...

[01:00:06] It's not a slasher film obviously. No, it is though. That's what I'm saying, I had that all the time. It has all the traits of a slasher film. You have this crew, they're getting killed one by one. Yeah. Ripley's the final girl. I mean, yeah.

[01:00:18] So whereas Aliens then or as you say, Alien 2 but like Aliens it turns a lot more into an action film in my opinion, right? There's still tons of horror, tons of scary parts but it's more action-spensive and similarities between Alien slash Terminator

[01:00:36] and Aliens slash Terminator 2 are the same. If they're two different styles of the same premise. Terminator was basically a horror movie back in 1984 when it came out. I mean, it was who can play a stone cold killer and murder people and this is dystopian future

[01:00:56] and Alien was clearly a horror movie and then they went big budget blockbuster action movie for both the sequels and the crazy part about it that is they both work so well. It's kinda funny that they wanted O.J. Simpson for that in the movie too.

[01:01:10] Yeah, that is crazy. He was just not believable as a killer and that's why he did not get the Terminator role. Yikes. That is crazy. That's nuts man. But I really like both of these films. It is interesting again, some of these times you just can't think

[01:01:28] too deeply about things, right? How did Sigourney Weaver become such a badass when she's been cryogenically sleeping? Like she becomes kind of a badass in that second film, I thought. She though also has just been the only one comparatively that has met these aliens before

[01:01:43] so she knows what they're dealing with. So she's got a little bit of that preexisting condition of like no, no, no, you guys have to take this. Seriously, we're gonna die if we don't fuck this big film. But in the first film,

[01:01:51] she's a little bit more of a helpless slasher film, you know, victim, right? That survives. I mean, she's not helpless. She's tough. No, she's a badass. She's tough, but she's not like... She's not Jamie Lee Curtis stabbing a fucking hanger into... Yeah, but I guess...

[01:02:04] Well actually, well, to counter that, Jamie Lee Curtis is not a badass in Halloween either. Jamie Lee Curtis is more helpless than Ripley is in the original Halloween. That was my point. Oh, okay. I just said it's not like Sigourney Weaver was not. No, not at all, yeah.

[01:02:20] Ripley had her head on her shoulders and she... I mean, she survives an attack from an android. She's methodical and pragmatic and logical the entire time, and she had a plan and... But you know, but she's... Also look great in a tank top.

[01:02:35] Genuinely scared in that first film. Of course. So like, I guess it... Really, Scott plays her weaknesses up more in the first film. She becomes a badass in that second film. But does she have those weaknesses as a character in the first film

[01:02:48] that have evaporated because of what she's gone through? And now she's... Maybe. She's a little hardened. Yeah, maybe. But she knows what to expect. Like, she's the expert in the situation when everyone else doesn't know what the fuck they're talking about. And there's scenes in that movie where,

[01:03:00] early on, especially when they're talking in the group and they're trying to figure out like what do you really know? And she doesn't even go at length to describe everything. She's just basically... You guys just don't get it. Yeah. Right? Yeah. No, I actually...

[01:03:15] Which one did you like more? I liked the first one better, but... So more horror space movies for Nate. It's a toss up, honestly. They're both so good in their own way. I liked Aliens better, obviously, because I'm more of an action guy. It is interesting though,

[01:03:29] I was looking at the holes. I've not seen the whole series, obviously, I've only seen the first two. You can stop. You should keep going. But... You can stop. But how incredible the directors... And Missa Charles' dance performance for The Ages? You can stop.

[01:03:44] But we've got David Fincher as Alien 3, right? Yeah, but don't get too excited about it. Yeah, that's problematic, yeah. And so, like, you've got Ridley Scott, James Cameron, and David Fincher. David Fincher's films, obviously, as you suggest, is not any good, but those are three incredible directors.

[01:04:03] And there's moments in the third one. And also, Fincher's, it's not his fault. No, no, no, not at all. That is studio meddling all day long. Oh, is that right? Yeah, there are many stories of production blows on Alien 3.

[01:04:16] If Fincher would have been able to make the movie that I'm sure he set out to make, we'd be talking about that as the best of the three. I legitimately could think that, because of how talented he was at the time. How does Paul W.S. Anderson do?

[01:04:29] Worse. Yeah, somehow even worse. All right, well, yeah. Anything else? Those are the films I just did. OK. How about you, Benny Boy? What did you watch? I'll start with my assigned film. Oh, go start with the assignment. Yeah, I watched, well, OK, let's say.

[01:04:45] The last movie I watched was The Night of the Roxbury from our little podcast. Yes. The one before that, though, was The Brave Little Toaster. Rescue's his friends. Wait, wait, was it The Brave Little Toaster goes to March? Yeah. Nope. Oh, no, it was the third one.

[01:05:04] Brave Little Toaster rescues something. Oh, The Brave Little Toaster to the rescue. To the rescue. 1997 film. No, that's like the third one. Yeah. No, yeah, I know. So here's why. Why? I understand. I know it's because of the kids. But you can't convince them, like, listen, guys,

[01:05:24] this is a bad idea. Now here's where my actual Brave Little Toaster. Here's my problem as pseudo stepdad here. Yeah. Is that when they said, do you want to, like, oh, The Brave Little Toaster, we saw it on Disney Plus, Brave Little Toaster.

[01:05:41] And they're like, oh, we want to watch that. And I didn't know that there were three. So I just clicked it. Buddy. You got a computer in your hands at any given moment. They pointed at it and said, we want to watch The Brave Little Toaster.

[01:05:54] I know, but it's up to you as a responsible pseudo quasi parent to do your research and be like, well, hold on. Do you need to watch one of these other movies first? You failed them. So I didn't know there were three.

[01:06:04] So I just assumed, oh, that's The Brave Little Toaster. I haven't seen that in years. I'll put it on. As soon as it came on, I'm like, this movie is not about the toaster at all. It's really not. Have you ever seen it?

[01:06:15] I've only seen The Brave Little Toaster because that's the good one. That's the only good one. This, this, yeah, not great hour, 14 minutes though. So kind of breezy. Here's the craziest part about this film. It's the premise is that the toaster and its toy story,

[01:06:33] basically the toaster and all the things, the vacuum and the radio are they in the first one? So all this is blank. John Lovitz is the radio in the first one. He might actually be the radio in the. He's not.

[01:06:45] OK, they couldn't afford him just like inside out to they got rid of Bill Hader. So what happens in this film is those things come to life when the adults are not in the room. There is a guy that is called The Master.

[01:06:58] Is that something from the first one? I don't think so. They call him The Master. Like, well, The Master would never let us go. And it's it's a collection of these antiquated items like there's a radio that has a tube in it to exist.

[01:07:12] And The Master is in graduate school and writing his thesis and it goes bad because there's a computer virus and his he wants to be a veterinarian and his cohort, his his clerk is an evil man that wants to like sell all the animals

[01:07:27] and whatever. And the toys in this instance are like the household items he's accrued in his lifetime. They know this, but they're trying to warn The Master that his his his clerk is a terrible person. It's it's a little jarring because

[01:07:44] the crux of the movie is they find an old tube computer in the basement and he's like a voice by I believe Brian Doyle Murray. Yes, yeah, yeah. And he I'm just an old. I need a I need one tube to make me run again

[01:07:59] and then I could warn your your master that everything's going right. And he's a good guy. He's not playing it up. The radio finds out that the tube is in him. And so the radio commits suicide. God, because the tube is in the tube is in him.

[01:08:15] So he like the radio walks the tube is in all of us. That's the story. It's your heart. The two. So the radio walks over behind a crate and all you see is the two roll

[01:08:26] all the way across the basement and like landed the feet of the rat or whatever. And then and then they put it in and then. Oh, the master. They walk over the radio is face down with the battery compartment open or the tube compartment open

[01:08:42] and the tube is gone. He's fucking dead. The boys are seven and ten and they are starting to get upset because the character just killed himself. I mean, this is heavy. Of course, they find a tube and blah, blah, blah.

[01:08:58] And they come back to life and solve it. But what about in the fucking same? No, the tube comes from no, Alaska. And the joke is that he's always cold now because the tube came from Alaska. Yeah, super well written movie.

[01:09:15] This had the emotional resonance of losing Bing Bong. Don't you fucking dare? So yeah, that's the brave little toaster to the rescue. The brave little toaster out of the one hundred and fourteen minutes has about four lines and is not really the star of the movie at all.

[01:09:31] And I thought at the end of it that that was the brave little toaster. And I was like, that's confused. I've never seen the brave little toaster. Well, the first one is good. And that's confused. And then I see that it's like, oh, it's a sequel.

[01:09:41] The kids never said anything. Oh, it's terrible. They'll they'll be talking to their therapist. Do your research. You know what? Next time I will. I didn't realize how many shitty knockoff, you know, sequels there could be. Yeah, I also watched A Million Ways to Die in the West.

[01:09:55] I love that movie. I was it was late night. I couldn't sleep with my eye thing. So I've been watching a lot of movies. I've been off work. So I've been watching a lot. So I watched that. And then I watched The Time to Kill.

[01:10:05] That was my that was my film that Nate. Yeah, I gave that film to you. Yeah, thanks, buddy. You don't like it? Here's here's the. I like this. No, it's a great film. It's a great film. What is this movie, Ben?

[01:10:20] A Time to Kill is based on a John Grisham novel in the first five minutes of the film, a young black girl whose ten year load gets raped and brutally attempted murdered and left for dead. And and then Samuel Jackson plays her father

[01:10:39] and he finds out, obviously, and then goes and kills the two white perpetrators who everybody knows did it. So the whole movie is about Matthew McConaughey and Sandra Bullock's characters as lawyers representing Samuel Jackson and can a black man get a fair trial in the south

[01:11:00] after this has happened to his family? It is it's it's a wonderful film. Like I had I had so much respect for every character in this film. I just I really everybody chooses scenery. Kevin Spacey plays a piece of shit, a prosecutor.

[01:11:18] Sam Jackson does such a brilliant, honestly, understated. Sam, this is the first film I think I remember. Sam Jackson, holy shit, blew me away. He's so good. So understated. Sandra Bullock is a Sandra Bullock is a young, you know, I'm not doing this for the money.

[01:11:32] I just I'm a law clerk and I need experience, blah, blah. My my dad's rich, so I'll just do this for free. Matthew McConaughey struggling southern lawyer took over practice from Donald Sutherland, who's an alcoholic that they can't pay their bills.

[01:11:45] RIP Kiefer Sutherland plays a the brother of the two white guys that did the raping and then got the murdered. And this was also one of the first films I remember seeing Ashley Judd going Ashley Judd. She's a door. Yeah, she's very attractive. Plays McConaughey's wife.

[01:12:02] There's Charles Dutton plays the sheriff. Ozzie, he's Chris Cooper's in this. Chris Cooper's in this. Yeah, as a police officer who loses a leg in the shooting. All of this. It's a courtroom drama like John Grisham does, right? 80 percent of the film takes place in the courtroom.

[01:12:20] Seventy five percent. Most of it. Yeah, whatever. But I liked it right off the bat because it's it's July here in Indiana. It's sweltering. And this movie is nothing if not showing you the heat of the. Oh, yeah, everyone is. Everyone's sweating.

[01:12:35] Oliver Platt shows up and we just talked about how much I loved him. And he puts on maybe the most ridiculous Southern accent I've ever heard. And I'm like, oh, that is jarringly taking me out of this movie right now.

[01:12:48] It's the one time that I was like, ah, darn it, because he's not great. He grows on bad. It's it's it's a number of being it's originally bad to me because it maybe it's just like I know he doesn't speak like that.

[01:13:00] So it just it's based on a true story. No, I don't think it's a great novel. It's no more. Be though. I mean, it doesn't. But it is a it's the first five minutes, though, are horrible. Yeah. And I'm watching this movie alone. Hard to watch.

[01:13:13] And I'm going, yeah, it's literally hard to watch. And I go, fuck you, Nate. Like, come on, man. Like, I'm like, oh, cool. It's going to be like the firm, you know, or something like a thriller. This is a gut punch immediately.

[01:13:25] And then I'm but but the filmmakers chose that angle. Who directed this film? This is directed by Joel Shoemaker. So RIP from from the get, though, it's got you. And because of that opening scene, like now I'm invested, now I want to know what happens no matter what.

[01:13:42] And so for the first maybe 10 to 15 minutes, the movie lays out exactly why you care. And it does such a it beats such a deep hook that even if you were somehow bored by it's two hours and 26 minutes.

[01:13:54] So even if you're somehow bored a little bit by this or that. It's a long film. But no, the whole time I'm like, I didn't pause it once. I didn't pee. Wrapped. I was attentive the entire time because of the opening.

[01:14:04] It was the first film not to get too political, but it was the first film I watched because I watched this when it came out. My mother loved this film and I remember watching with her and she wanted me to watch it.

[01:14:13] It was one of the first films that I watched that like racism as a thing was presented to me. And I'm going, oh, this just seems unfair. I was so impressed by the fact that this this holds up as far

[01:14:26] as how they treated the race aspect in the nineties because John Grisham and I don't know how closely they stuck to the source material. I don't know. But but there's so much of like Matthew McConaughey is not a white savior in this film.

[01:14:41] Like that would be the easy way out. But him and Samuel Jackson disagree. Sam Jackson takes advantage of him at certain points. The N.C. double and W.A.C.P. comes through. There's a lot of there's the Klan and all this other stuff.

[01:14:56] But this is not a white savior movie, even though if you watch the trailer like, oh, cool, white lawyer represents black man. It's the Green Book. If the Green Book was the Constitution. Cool. It's not what happens. There's so many more layers to this movie than I thought.

[01:15:11] That's what I like about it is it does play on the layers. Absolutely. It's a lot more complex. And and even even that, like Donald Sutherland's character, who is a drunk, who had to give basically get he got disbarred. He you know, he's the one that recommends

[01:15:25] the expert witness that ends up not working out well. And it's like, it's not like Donald Sutherland's telling his protege like, I'm going to fuck you over because I don't like you. He's trying his best. And the expert witness that he recommends

[01:15:36] ends up just having a more nefarious past than maybe he let on. Not anybody's fault. But how do you deal with that when you're in a capital murder trial and he could be going to the gas chamber all because you made a mistake as my mentor?

[01:15:50] Like there's again, this is a seven layer depot of a movie. I really enjoyed it. Thank you, Nate. I actually, if I had times I watched it just like two days ago, I was going to start watching like the client and the Pelligan brief and the firm again.

[01:16:03] Like it got me in the mood to watch. So I haven't seen the only no one cares about the only Christian adaptation I think I've seen is the Rainmaker. So I know. No. No, sorry, I've seen the firm. Yeah. OK, I watched the firm fairly recently.

[01:16:15] No, I haven't seen time to get this because I haven't seen the client and haven't seen the brief. Get ready, buddy. I know I just explained the entire movie of no, no, but it's but it's all things. Oh yeah, you watch it and you're like,

[01:16:26] this is what he's talking about. Like I knew I the only things I knew about Time to Kills. I know what the premise is. I know every clip I've seen. Everyone always looks very sweaty. So I knew they got that. And again, immediately, it was hot.

[01:16:37] And I had just turned up the AC like to up to 70 instead of like my normal 65 because the Ash and the boys were over and they freeze at my house. And so I turned it up and I forgot to turn it back down.

[01:16:47] So I was sweating as this movie played. I'm like, all right, good movie. And then again, immediately just hard to watch. And I'm like, oh, thanks, buddy. And of course, I know Sam Jackson's Big Line, which is the yes, they deserve to die.

[01:17:00] And I hope they burn in him. Yeah, yeah. This is that's the you need me on that wall. You keep saying you need me on that wall as if that's the crux of the yell, the yell. Yeah, but like the big line is you can't handle the truth.

[01:17:14] Oh yeah, I guess maybe I'm just conflating those two. Yeah, like he says it in the same speech. No, no, I'm going to say that you need me on my wall. That's the thing. He's in the moment when you said it,

[01:17:22] I thought maybe you just meant that it's like like because it's not that you can't handle the truth moment necessarily, it's but it's like it has a it's part of the same thing. No, I was saying it as you can't handle the truth.

[01:17:32] OK, and I will continue to believe that. I believe that this is also Matthew McConaughey's first starring role. Do you want he'd been in a couple of movies, but this is his first starring. Brad, do you want to hear my impression

[01:17:44] of Jack Nicholson saying you need me on that wall? You you you want me on that wall? You need me on that one? I've heard you say it before, but I want everyone. No, the real one. Yes. Right. Yeah, absolutely. You need me on that wall.

[01:17:59] You want me on that wall. You can't handle the truth. Well, see, well, first of all, not you flipped the first two lines. It's you want me on that wall. You need me on that wall. This is so perfect. We use words like honor, code, loyalty.

[01:18:15] We usually use these words of the backbone of a nation spent defending it. You use them as a punch line. Gone to frigging great speeds, by the way. I'm Jack Nicholson. Does he say that? And I approve of this message either way.

[01:18:29] I don't give a damn what you think you're entitled to. That's Nicholson. That's not bad. Does the judge in that moment never said sidebar. That's true. He really should have. He's a very firm judge in a few good men. He is no jokes judge. Most of them aren't.

[01:18:46] I haven't seen a lot of 90s films where the judge is all it's mainly like overruled sidebar. Just regard that statement. What are you doing, Jackass? So I after my surgery, I stayed with my parents for a couple of nights in a row.

[01:19:01] And so we watched a couple of movies. I introduced them to the final girls. The Todd Strauss Sholston movie. 2015 with Adam Devine. Yeah, yeah. And we were looking for something. It's a quick hitter. It's 90 minutes and I know they never seen it.

[01:19:16] The final girls is a meta movie where a young woman has a mom who's an actress. There is a car accident. The mother passes away and then she is convinced to go to see the film that her mom was in as 20 year celebration retrospective.

[01:19:33] It's a slasher film like the in this universe, the quintessential slasher film from the 80s. Very much like a Friday the 13th. Sleepaway Camp type thing. And so she goes and then there's a fire in the theater and they get somehow sucked into the movie.

[01:19:45] So now she's in the movie with her mom as the actress, you know, instead of as the character instead of the actress and Adam Devine's in it. But these are trophy 80s just single use characters in this film. And these are people from 2015 that are in this like

[01:20:03] they've had a roll on them. They have cell phones like all this other stuff. And the movie just keeps repeating over and over again where you can't escape. You run and you just get you get right back there because you're in the setting of the film.

[01:20:15] So there's a Jason Voorhees style killer that comes after them and they know that like, oh, if you're topless or you have sex, it comes. So like they they know this. So using every comes they're using every trope against him.

[01:20:28] So they like this one girl who's slutty is going to get naked and they put her in like a life jacket and like mittens and like, you know, what are those? I can't think of what they're called when you put them on your hands

[01:20:39] and take things out of the oven oven mitts. Yep. You know what? Leave that in. I'm fucking leave it in. They put oven mitts and a life jacket so she can undo her stuff. So he won't. What are those gloves that you use to catch baseballs?

[01:20:56] What is this? Nate's not been listening, by the way. Hey, what did I just say? Oh my God, he's watching a long good night. It's terrible. It's about oven mitts. Oh God. The worst. Shit. Anyway, so it was my parents loved it. Like they were really they talk.

[01:21:16] They call my mom called me then I say like, you know, your father, I really like that movie. Like how'd you know about that? And I was like, well, Brad told me I should watch it back in. What nine years ago?

[01:21:24] What is the film that they made last year about a film that was kind of like this? Where they go back in time to a. Oh yeah, this so we talked about this when you when you watched it. Yeah, totally killer. Yeah.

[01:21:37] Okay, this is the film you were talking about. Yeah, this is the film we talked about that it that does that way. Because I'm like, I think I saw this film, but it was not made in 2015. No and Adam Devine's awesome.

[01:21:45] He just plays a horny guy that's like, yeah, we're going to do it. Like it's gonna be fine. And everybody's like calm calm down. So this is directed by Todd Strauss Shulson who directed a very special film in Kumar Christmas. And he's also directed. It's great.

[01:22:01] Isn't it romantic? One of the things I appreciate about Todd and I like I know him personally too. Like we I think I've told a story on here before about how I became friends with them by vaguely unknowingly insulting him online. Oh yeah, he responded to you. Yeah.

[01:22:15] But we became friends with him. I know your best friends. And so it's been really interesting to watch him bring very unique visual style to movies that otherwise maybe wouldn't have any unique camera movements or things like that. Thank you for saying that.

[01:22:30] So my mom specifically pointed out Nate, pay attention in this film, the like the title, right? Would say like they're a lot of they'll say like, well, let me tell the story about the sleep away camp how this was happened.

[01:22:45] And so the dripping kind of like flashbacky stuff happens to them where it's physically in front of them and then it becomes black and white and like, why are we black and white? Like that's they're using the actual style of film. That's fun.

[01:22:59] And then you can trip over the title card. It's it's in front of you and you can it's a physical like the next day. Yeah. And you can extra meta you have to step over it, you know, because

[01:23:09] you're in the film and they know this and that's I love my mom was like, that was so cool. There's one of my favorite things about this is there's a really cool single take sequence in the house where the camera like zooms and like

[01:23:24] roams and like does these like crazy moving stuff like that is when they were setting everything up. Yeah, yeah. And yeah, and that's yeah, he just he does some really cool stuff with camera rings. And then you know, in this movie, they're setting things up to like trap

[01:23:38] the killer. But of course, everything goes wrong. And some of these people that they just met these characters in the eight scares all die because of their shitty home alone style traps that just don't work. And that's meta as well, because you're like in the movie really

[01:23:52] like it would work and we're going to work together and know they'll fucking die. Like it's a little bit of like Dale and Tucker versus evil type thing. It's just it's so good. It is. It's great movie. And then I know this.

[01:24:04] Okay, it's not a movie with TV show. Not really TV show. I introduced my mother and father to Middletch and Swartz. Oh, nice. I know you're a big fan of Thomas Middletch. Oh, stop it. That's a guy that he was in this film. I can actually he was.

[01:24:18] Oh shit. He was in. Oh yeah. He's a final girl. Shit. No, regardless of his maybe proclivities to be kind of a weirdo sexually, I don't know if we're always so easy. It's just no sexual misconduct allegations. Yeah, I don't know. It's weird. Anyway, still funny. Middle sports.

[01:24:39] Middle sports. I do feel like it kind of canceled, right? I don't see him in any. He got quiet canceled. Like he really said it. But he's like they're not. Right. So he's not like I don't think Ben Schwartz is like touring with him anymore. No, he's not.

[01:24:51] It's Schwartz and friends and it's not with Thomas Middletch. Anyway, that was it's still those three, you know, episodes that they do are brilliant. They are phenomenal. Brad, I wish that you and I could do that on a local level. Me too. I mean, it's perfect.

[01:25:06] Yeah, it's exactly what I would want to do for a living. Yeah, it's really, really funny. I would do this podcast as well if I won the lottery. We would do middle-distance sports style long form improv to the liking of no one. Right.

[01:25:19] And then we would also do this podcast. We don't have to. Oh, no, we would. Okay. I would be able to. The quality would probably improve. Yeah. As far as like the audio, not the content. Oh, content would get worse. Yeah, probably.

[01:25:31] It's like to be high on Coke. I was just going to say we get a lot better drugs. Yeah. Have you ever done go flicks yourself on MDMA? You're gonna. You're listening to go flicks yourself on weed. Oh, nice. Have you guys ever done ayahuasca?

[01:25:46] That's the same voice that you said. Did you guys remember this? How do you guys feel about Tom Scarrett? Tom Scarrett? He was ever done ayahuasca? No. I'm very curious about what those more heavy drugs would do to my mind.

[01:26:01] I want to know what they feel like, but I'm too scared to do it on me. Oh, I would never. Yeah, I can't even tell them. Yeah. Like just being like having an out of body experience or something or like on mushrooms. Yeah, no. Like yeah.

[01:26:15] I'm very scared of ayahuasca and acid and mushrooms. I won't do Coke because I think I'll have a hard tech. You know, yeah. It's basically just like edibles and smoking weed. I love the idea that like people will be like, oh, yeah, but it'll change you forever.

[01:26:28] And I'm like, yeah, I already don't like a lot of what's going on and I think it's going to change me for the worse. Yeah. I've seen how it changes people forever. Yeah. Yeah, I got a new cardboard sign and I'm standing out on a corner.

[01:26:40] I don't want that. Yeah, I'm going to do that once and I'm going to be insufferable like you are about. Oh God. And actually I would posit that those people are worse than the people that go down the rabbit hole of like bad hard drugs.

[01:26:51] If you tell me one more time how it's if you say you're enlightened in the conversation with me, I'm going to want to hit you in the face. We just become evolved. I'm just really more evolved now. I just I breathe different, you know.

[01:27:03] Yeah, no, you just see the world for the way it is now. Yeah, there's just no preconceived notions about people or plants. They'll do that. They'll like put two things in the same category that don't belong. You know, I just think like cars and mushrooms are the

[01:27:16] same, you know, just one. No, I get it though. That's what I that's a Brad wants. All right. Do we have time for anything else? Do we do trailers or a game or anything? We got to go. What time are we at Nate 137? Are you serious?

[01:27:30] Yeah, if I. I feel like if I even if I cut the court stuff, which I probably will be at 115. Yeah, so we should probably just end it. Do we do quick trailers though? Probably. Can you just find other shit to cut?

[01:27:45] I think the court stuff is going to be long enough that you could also cut. I talked a lot about the plot of a time to kill. You could probably just cut a lot of that too. That's like three or four minutes at least. Maybe I don't know.

[01:27:57] There's a figure out. All right. We do like we could make it a bit where I was like, we only have like 30 seconds. We're just going to hit these trailers really quickly. And then we're going to get out of here. Isn't that sort of be a bit?

[01:28:08] But yeah, which would be fast about that. Um, Brad's a hoe. Let's talk about Christmas. What? So what a weird comeback from him not listening to being like, I'm going to make the most jovial joke about Brad and I'm excited. I'm excited guys. We talked about Christmas.

[01:28:29] It's Christmas in July. Um, we got, we have two new trailers that we're going to talk about, but before we do that, Ben's going to sing the trailer song. Oh, uh, um, now remember it's Christmas in July. Oh, sorry. Sorry. You're right. And I'm listening now.

[01:28:44] Trailers don't hurt me. Don't hurt me no more. Want to watch some trailers that don't hurt me with Bradford and Nathan. No more. He literally just said, remember it's Christmas in July. You're lucky you got a song at all. Were you expecting a Christmas song?

[01:29:06] Yeah, of course he was. That's why I didn't do it. He's, he's an asshole. Yeah. Cause you make me the trailer song. I'm not your fucking little puppet monkey. But you made it harder on yourself and you also don't know the lyrics to what is love.

[01:29:18] You added like words where there are no words in the melody. Don't hurt me. No more. Jingle bells, watch some trailers Batman laid an egg. All of a sudden there's more to talk about. Let's talk about some fucking trailers. Better. That was pretty fun. Oh my God.

[01:29:38] I appreciate the mix of the Batman version. Trailers play. Are you watching? Snow is falling. In my pocket. I pull it all out. I snore it all up. Oh my God. Now we're talking trailers when I'm on trailers. Oh Jesus, that took a turn. It did.

[01:29:59] You know what? You have knighted us. There was a story to tell. Yeah. You have knighted us on that one. Good for you. We watched two trailers for Christmas movies that are coming out later this year. You just, by the way, you just got three songs. God.

[01:30:10] So I'm out for the next fucking month. God help us. We watched two Christmas trailers. The first one, let's just get this one out of the way. It's called the best Christmas pageant ever. Okay. This is what you would. It's red one.

[01:30:24] This is what you would call one of those faith-based family comedies. It's from the creator of The Chosen, which is a very popular TV show about the story of Jesus that is really hitting big with the church groups right now, right Nate? Yeah. I think people like this.

[01:30:39] Now Pastor Nate. Yep. This feels like it's a movie that you and your congregation are just going to have a big Christmas explosion over. Oddly enough. Thanks for honestly for the first time in your entire life. You went PC on it. You had it locked and loaded.

[01:30:56] But you, thank you. You know, we don't need to get all crass. This is a Christmas crass. I was going to say Christmas jizz. Okay. God, start it. I shouldn't have, you know what? That's my fault. That's my fault. That's totally my fault. This is all your fault.

[01:31:10] I am so sorry. I was trying to compliment him and it backfired. Mary jizz-mas. Oh my God. Well somebody was hung. I was hanging on the chair. Oh my God. How you left? I got it. I'm in. All right. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry.

[01:31:32] This film is going to do fine because- Nate, this is based on a book? It is. I've never heard of this book. I read this book in school, I think. Yep. Is it a short story or? Yeah, it's a kid's book. It was written in 1972. John Grisham. Yep.

[01:31:47] By Barbara Robinson. Okay. I remember reading this book in school. I've never even heard of this book. Santa Claus courtroom drama by John Grisham. I think our local community theater is actually doing this play. They actually made a play or musical on this as well. Okay. In December.

[01:32:05] It's going to be saccharine, it's going to be fine, it's going to be safe and not great. But it's going to be very Christmassy and there's going to be a lot of people that like that. Initially I was intrigued because I knew Pete Holmes was involved in it.

[01:32:17] I was like, oh maybe he'll bring a little bit of like actual levity to it and it won't feel so hokey. But it really doesn't. And it's not his fault. And Pete Holmes comes from like a religious background.

[01:32:28] So I think I understand like why he's doing something like this and why it works for him aside from just being a paycheck. But yeah, it's just has so much cheesiness to it. It just seems like this would be on brand for Pete Holmes 10 years ago.

[01:32:42] But he's really escalated to like almost an atheist where he doesn't believe in he makes fun of religion. No, I think he's the ayahuasca guy actually now. Yeah, that's right. He's more of that. But he did the Home Alone film that Mikey Day wrote. Yeah.

[01:32:57] Home Sweet Home Alone. I feel like this is kind of a little bit on brand for him because he's doing the John Ritter like dad stuff now. That's fair. Hey, you know cash some checks. Yeah, no, I don't.

[01:33:07] Honestly, but like this is the thing that kind of sucks is like this is what happens when studios aren't making big mainstream comedies anymore. You know, we talked about this off air. This budget what 10 million probably. Yeah.

[01:33:17] You know and you're going to get church groups buying like tickets in like but if you're over but if you spent 25 million and yet maybe and nothing against Judy Greer or Pete Holmes, but 25 million gets you Sandra Bullock and Ryan Reynolds or whatever.

[01:33:32] And then you can make a real movie. I mean, and this is what I said off air before we recorded too is that these movies now exist because there's a big audience for them. That's right. They're cheap to make and studios aren't making mid budget family

[01:33:45] drama, these dramas, comedies anymore. You're right. That's not to your credit and in my chagrin here. That's not the point of this film. Yeah. Right. The point is lower budget make a lot of money and and pander to Christian groups. Exactly.

[01:34:00] It's because like because there nowadays there are tons of actors like Greg Keneer and people like that who are doing faith based movies like they're getting more more legit. More more legit actors to do these movies because they're getting paid. Exactly.

[01:34:12] No, there was a film that came out I think a couple months ago that it did fine. It wasn't didn't make a ton of money, but it did find it was the passion of the Christ ordinary angels. Hillary Swank. Yeah. It's another Christian film. Hillary Swank.

[01:34:25] Alan Ritt, you know, you like Alan Richardson. Reacher. Reacher. Calm it down. You know what? I don't like faith based movies. No, no, Alan Richmond's a fucking Instagram. I don't like the Lord turn it off. Stop it. Why? I don't know. He is just so everywhere.

[01:34:43] It's just what do you mean? Are you serious? No, I'm serious. I don't know what you're talking about, either. So he does all so. Hey guys. Just wanted to just shout out to the crew, you know, making sure that everybody understands, you know my stance on abortion

[01:34:56] is he just goes he's got these videos that he puts up all the time about every detail of his life and how he feels about everything. It's like, dude, no, I don't care. I don't care about that. Is he trying to be an influencer? Yeah.

[01:35:08] He's got a fan base. I don't care. He's like Jeremy Renner. You don't have to watch him. Yeah, why follow him? I love Reacher. It's my guilty pleasure. Leave me alone. Another one that they did. So why do you care if Reacher's around? I don't know.

[01:35:20] They keep on doing these films though. And there was one a couple of years ago called Miracles from Heaven with Jennifer Gardner. Again, $14 million budget box office 75. Guys, I say we just let this be a two hour podcast. But these films.

[01:35:35] We said we were just going to make it. Just cut it down real quick. And you know what? Actually, I'm kind of supportive of that because this is our big super July 4th blowout. You know what? Yeah, this is a, fuck you guys, two hour podcast. Buckle up.

[01:35:46] If you're a true fan, you'll listen. But it does, it just shocks me because these aren't good films. But they found the secret success to making money. Yeah, of course. You know who hasn't? A lot of other films. Yeah, seriously. True. So yeah, I'm not excited about this.

[01:36:00] I don't think it's going to be very good. I will definitely see it because it's a Christmas film. I thought it was a hallmark film. And I was like, why are we watching the trailer for this? Yeah, the quality is not there for sure. It's disappointing.

[01:36:08] But you know what? You know what other movie trailer watch that has a $250 million budget without promo? And it looks like it's worth every fucking penny. It's Zack Snyder's The Santa Clause. The Santa Clause. That's what it looks like. That's basically what it is.

[01:36:26] This movie is called Red One. It is a. Before you continue, Nate, be 100% honest. With no levity in your voice, are you legitimately excited to see this film because you think you're going to enjoy it? 100%. Here's the thing.

[01:36:50] I'm going to say, I was not remotely excited about this movie. I knew the premise. I hadn't watched the trailer yet. What got me on board for watching this stupid fucking movie? Let me guess. Can I guess? Well, you know, because I lost it in the trailer.

[01:37:06] I lost it when we were watching the trailer to the point where we had to pause the trailer. Go ahead and tell them, Ben. There is a. And this is the thing I was going to tell you. I said, off air.

[01:37:15] There's one moment in the trailer where I fucking hate this movie. And it could have been better. And it's for a reason you wouldn't believe. Brad's talking about there is a CGI polar bear. A polar bear henchman. That comes in and like threatens Chris Evans's character. Yeah.

[01:37:30] And he's but the it's not that, Brad, for me. OK. It's the fucking way he saunters in like his fucking machismo goomba like fucking. Yeah, that's what. That's that's the bear that I love. That is exactly why. Why this movie is insane because you can do a

[01:37:55] very well made CGI polar bear that is terrifying and do it. Instead, they're like this guy is from the fucking New Jersey mob. No, it fucking exactly. And that's why I was like, oh my God, yes, give me a choice. They made a choice. Thank you.

[01:38:09] I was literally going to say the word choice. His name is Garcia. The choice? Yeah. Get Garcia here. What you got problem with us? Yes. What the fuck? Holy shit. And is it voiced by Jeremy Renner? It sounded like it did sound like it.

[01:38:23] I feel like it's got to be. I mean, he probably was laid up after his snowmobile accident or whatever. And he had to record some voice over. Well, that's why he was on the snowmobile. Brad won. It's so bad. But it gets better. Does it? Yeah.

[01:38:38] Is it the snowman on the beach scene? The abominable snowman fight scene fucking took it to another level too. This? I got to say, I love the device that Dwayne Johnson has that turns toy cars into real cars.

[01:38:51] That's a cool fucking thing that if I was a kid, they would blow my fucking mind. OK, that's number two. That's number two problem for Ben. OK? You don't want kids having fun? No. Using their imaginations? OK, yeah. Let's make a life-size fucking matchbox car. Oh, I'm sorry.

[01:39:05] Is there not an internal combustion engine inside of a matchbox? No, there's not. As somebody? That's fucking bullshit. Yes. As somebody who? Live in the universe you build. Yes. As somebody who loves logic nitpicking. This is a brand nitpick. This is a brand nitpick.

[01:39:18] That would be just a big diecast metal car with no engine and uncomfortable plastic seats. Yep. And the steering wheel wouldn't move? No. The wheels wouldn't either. No, no. Wonder Woman doll would not. Yeah, that would be a sex doll with no opening for Chris Evans' character.

[01:39:37] And he's OK. Well, I don't see the problem there. So, Brad, are you going to see this film? Yeah, of course. I'll be there. I'll be there if there is something before opening day. Yeah. Because I'll be there then. This is going to be amazing.

[01:39:52] This is like better than Venom. If the movie has anything half as good as Garcia the polar bear, I mean. I'm all in. Yeah. You've got Jack J.K. Simmons playing Santa Claus. Yeah. Oh my gosh. You've got The Rock doing whatever.

[01:40:06] I don't care about The Rock at all. Pissing the water bottles. Oh, gives a shit about The Rock. My god. You know what? You jump the shark, buddy. Go take your seven bucks and go home. Don't you feel like a little bit like he's just. I'm over him.

[01:40:16] So over him. Just from all the stories of him and Vin Diesel being equally pieced as a shit on set. It's like, fuck off, man. Like you've got your millions. Go voice one or two.

[01:40:26] But do you know what films I love that I hope this kind of models after in the tone is. It won't, but what? Jake Hasden's Jumanji films. He's directing this as well. Now that's fair. The director does know what he's doing with these.

[01:40:40] And so if he can do some. I love the Jumanji films. I think they're so much fun. I mean they're fun. I don't know why I love them. I do. No, no, they're good. They're not bad. They're not bad. They're very fun. Brett, are they good or bad?

[01:40:51] They are OK. Come on, man. No, they're OK. They're not fine. They're OK. What about what's worse than fine? I think the first one is very entertaining. I think the second one overstays its welcome. Fine, but they're better. They're more good than bad.

[01:41:06] If you were rotten tomatoes, Fred, I can get a say it's either good or bad. Which one is it? You would say good. I know you would. Jake has an awesome. You don't act as if these are bad films.

[01:41:16] You'd say there's a lot of bad in here, but it's mostly good. OK. Jake has an also directed one of my favorite films from college. Orange County. Yeah, love it. Yeah, love it so much. Orange County is good shit. I trust I trust him as a director.

[01:41:32] I think he's like a lot of the films. They're not great films. They're good films and I enjoy the film. He learned great lessons from his father who is a legendary screenwriter and director in his own right. So I there's enough. Who is he Nate Lawrence?

[01:41:44] Thank you, Ben. What else has Lawrence Kasdan made? Lawrence Kasdan is a real big up in the Star Wars universe. That's true. What else? Indiana Jones. Yes, 100%. That's all I got, buddy. OK. I'm overstating my welcome here after those two. OK. That's good. It's very good.

[01:42:02] Also the big chill. Cool. You haven't seen the big chill? Never seen it. It's very good. It's a great movie. Sounds like an assignment. Maybe better than like a sweltering rape movie. I'll put it this way. It's a movie Nate would assign you.

[01:42:16] Have you seen the big chill, Nate? Is it really sad? Yeah. I don't know. I don't want to watch it. Will somebody next time just give me a movie that doesn't like make me feel horrible about the world? 17 didn't make you feel horrible about the world, did it?

[01:42:29] Oh, that's fair. Yeah, that's fair. Nate, I'm talking to you. I'm just specifically talking to you. No more weatherman. Weatherman is a good film. It's pretty good. Red One. We're all seeing it. Red One. For very different reasons. Nate's on board just because it's a Christmas film.

[01:42:48] Brad and I cannot wait to vent him the shit out of this world. I was floored by that fucking polar bear. He comes out of nowhere. Seriously. What the fuck is this? It just changed my whole perspective of what the movie could be.

[01:42:57] Because I didn't know that Brad had not seen the trailer first. I thought he'd already seen it, so we watched it at my house. And when that happens, he laughed so organically. I was like, wait, have you not seen this scene? No! Yeah, I had. So good.

[01:43:09] Oh man, I was just totally taking it back. Oh, so good. Stupid Red One. Yeah, that's it. Well, for Christmas in July. Yeah, hey. We're looking forward to the holidays. Woof. Yikes. Well, thanks for tuning in to an extra long episode. This is a super-sized episode.

[01:43:28] You did it. Yeah. They've been a little longer lately. I think we got to reel it in, but I'm just so obsessed with how funny we are. They've been clocking in at like an hour, 20, almost an hour, 30. How about next week we'll try to do a cool hour?

[01:43:48] Just a cool hour. You know what, no matter what, we'll cap it at 59 minutes next week just to get a cool breeze. I will have a timer and actually listen next week. Yep, Brad will talk, Nate will listen, and I'll be there.

[01:43:59] I think that's where we spend most of our time is repeating stuff for Nate. That's what it is. A lot of the editing is just like, ugh. You know, we listen intently to your fucking court story and you can't even listen to us talk about our things.

[01:44:12] If you're going to edit that out, you got to edit that out then. If you didn't hear a super long court story in this episode, you're welcome. By the way, I was ready to move on from that story. Ben, I was so impressed with it.

[01:44:27] You were into it, and that's why I felt bad because I was like, well, I don't want to ruin this. That is though. That's an off-the-air conversation for sure. We'll delete it. Nobody wants to hear any of our Yahoo conversation. Delete the one about Finn and I.

[01:44:39] You know what? I might now because then it's going to make the episode look longer. I was going to say maybe I'll put the court story at the end of the episode, but it's just going to make it look like a long episode.

[01:44:47] Could you edit in and be like, hi guys, this is Brad. I'm editing right now. If you want to listen to a ridiculously stupid, doesn't matter-to-the-podcast court story, the time code you need to jump to if you don't want to is here. So then people would jump ahead.

[01:45:00] I could, but the problem is that if people go to look at the episode, like the total runtime is still going to be fucking, you know. Don't just say in the fucking total-almost as long as the time to kill is. Nobody cares about us. Nobody gives a shit.

[01:45:10] That's fair. Nobody cares about us. Well, if you're listening-if you heard this part of the podcast, then you're missing a great court story. Maybe Nate will tell you one time. Hey, ask me in person. This has been-this has been a-it's-you know- I got subpoenaed.

[01:45:22] This is a good-this is a good episode of the podcast. Not a bad one. A good one. I'd say it's okay. I feel like it's mid, but you know. Bid, what are you-the-fucking-you're the one with kids here. It's mid. No cap. Jesus. We're just fam here guys.

[01:45:38] Oh, well on that note. Bye everybody, bye! Nah, cheats taking out of you.