Episode 199 - Introducing The Crunch Brothers

[00:00:00] Hey everybody, go Flix Yourself Hey everybody, go Flix Yourself Hey everybody, it's another episode of Go Flix Yourself My name is Ben Conowitz And with me as always is the frosted mini-weets to my golden grams Revved omen Hey that's me Top is delicious, the rest is trash

[00:00:33] And you know what Nate? You're the lucky charms To my golden grams Cause you know what? There are some shy little pieces here But you know what? It's punctuated with so much flavor and zest for life I love you buddy Hey, a sidebar

[00:00:50] Doing an Irish leprechaun impression is probably gonna get me canceled Right? I don't think so No, no, no, that's white You can do it Anything white's good Hey guys, I miss you Yeah, that's not the first time Ben said that God damn it I can't believe that one

[00:01:10] This really didn't come out a little too easily Just said it without any hesitation whatsoever Just like that That phrase has come out a couple times I can't believe it Anything white's good Ben Conowitz, you heard it here first folks Get you go Flix Yourself mugs with Ben's

[00:01:28] We're getting shirts made Can we edit that out? No, that's too good You know what I made context Context I now I know how Colin Joe speaks Except Colin has to say it You choose to say it So anyway Join me next week for my apology tour

[00:01:50] Where I'll be visiting synagogues And mosques around the world But not churches apparently So we were gone for a week We did not Did we do an episode last week? No, we didn't No movies came out either You guys You guys were Yeah

[00:02:07] Well it does seem like that I went to go see a movie this week But I just wish there were more You went to go see a movie this week And you just went to the theater And said clothes No, sorry No movies

[00:02:17] Sometimes I go to the movies There's three good choices Yeah And they were I liked the movie I saw It wasn't like anything that I was dying to see But I just wanted to go see a film So maybe it's just the doldrum of December

[00:02:32] It's a movie podcast Where we talk about the latest movies We talk about some trailers And Ben makes some really, really Questionable remarks That he doesn't mean We always start off with the sponsor Brad Please don't do the thing you always do

[00:02:48] And just tell us who the sponsors You know Ben It's the holiday season So hoop-de-hoop And lickety blot What? Don't forget the cookies That you like to eat I do like a good cookie We're going to see how you feel about these cookies, Nate

[00:03:04] I hope they're not like gingerbread They're not gingerbread They're definitely not gingerbread So this is a holiday exclusive from our old friends At Pepperidge Farm They came out with a new Pepperidge Farms A new flavored cookie this year

[00:03:19] And I'm going to let you take it from the bag Did you get this from the Pepperidge Farm store? I did not I just got this from the regular store Mayer Regional Walmart Don't look at the front of the bag Just take a cookie out

[00:03:30] Hey, grab me a cookie Don't look at the bag Don't show Nate either Yeah, there you go Cup it and don't look at it I've said that before too Yeah, so take the cookie Give it a little crunch Smelling it? It does have A nice scent to it

[00:03:50] It smells like potpourri This is in your grandma's bathroom That's what it smells like I feel about this cookie, Nate I feel like this is a classic cookie Because you like those cookies that come in the tin I do like those cookies, yeah The butter cookies The Biscoff?

[00:04:08] No That's a completely different cookie The butter ones that have the Danish cookies That come in the blue tin The Malanos? The ones that Chloe Trost brought to the I don't know why I'm making so many SNL references It's good But I don't really get a good

[00:04:23] It tastes just like those cookies actually Is it peppermint? It's not peppermint It's holiday nog It's egg nog flavored basically Do you get the nog in there? A little bit I think you can smell it more than you can taste it actually It's nog-ish Yeah But these are

[00:04:39] It's the way I like my eggs Nog Nog These are Chestnut cookies If you've ever had the Chestnut Pepperatour cookies Which are They're kind of like butter cookies And those are pretty good But these have like a cinnamon egg nog Like creamy kind of almost flavor to them

[00:04:53] So yeah, it's not strong But they're alright No they're good I like these type of cookies Yeah for not being chocolate It's not bad Do you like chocolate cookies? I do Do you like egg nog? I like chocolate everything No I don't actually At all?

[00:05:05] I mean I'll have like I'm not joking I'll have a Half of a cup Like the actual measurement half a cup Yeah Like that much And I'm like good for the night Like it's so thick It is It's thick and rich for sure It's a lot

[00:05:18] Would you enjoy it more If it came in like a National Lampoon Vacation Wally World mug I would end up getting hammered Because I couldn't stop just doing bits Like I'll drink it again Yeah My mom likes to have egg nog With hot damn in it

[00:05:30] In the morning before work Hot damn is cinnamon schnapps Well, it's pretty good I like it too Well thanks for listening everyone So that's it Holiday Nog Cookies You can find them now in stores From Pepperidge Farm And they always remember Well hey

[00:05:48] They remember to send a check We sincerely thank you For sponsoring the show Pepperidge Farms We love you Okay well I don't love that Nate let's start with you this week buddy What's the last movie you saw Okay Just call it the cookie bros

[00:06:03] No I'm not calling you anything I'm calling you rur-rurners of the podcast People don't like the People don't like to hear you say What do you like more Do you like cookie bros or like crunch brothers I think I'm leaning towards Crunch Brothers I mean

[00:06:14] Because Crunch Brothers is all Encompassing It could be chips, it could be candy Yeah Ben we're gonna start a new podcast You wanna do this Crunch Brothers you wanna get in You wanna I do not want in I won't listen

[00:06:24] It's a great opportunity to get on the ground floor No This is gonna be the big one I hope it crumbles Ahhhh You guys wanna stop chewing in the mics You good If you're asking No I'm sorry listener I tried I tried so hard

[00:06:40] Nate what's the last movie you saw buddy So the last movie I saw Was a movie called The Hunger Games The Ballad of Songbirds In Snakes Recommended to me by my friend Brad Not a sign Just recommended No I texted you guys

[00:06:55] I'm thinking about a couple of movies And Brad said that's the one you wanna go to And I'm not a hunger game I think I saw The first Hunger Games film But I don't think I saw the whole trilogy Oh really So there's technically There's four movies

[00:07:09] They split the third book into two movies Yeah so I don't remember If I did maybe I did I wasn't that enamored with them But you really like this film And I wanted to see it And I enjoyed it quite a bit The

[00:07:22] What is the main actress's name Rachel Zecler Yeah Rachel Zecler Way better than Jennifer Lawrence Is as the lead of this Oh boy I love it Alright I'm here for it No It's really interesting actually because For those of you that don't know

[00:07:41] Brad has a thing for Jennifer Lawrence Brad doesn't just have a thing for Jennifer Lawrence Jennifer Lawrence is his wife So be respectful There is a restraining order Against anybody who tries to come after my wife Keep Brad's name Brad's wife's name out of your mouth

[00:07:59] That guys that would have been funnier If I didn't screw it up No that's okay keep doing it This is incredible So I did text you And say I don't know a ton about this world Is it okay to go in and watch the film

[00:08:12] Not knowing a ton Absolutely It was fine The thing I don't love though about films like this Is So I know enough about the Donald Sutherland character Snow I think is his last name right John Snow And He is a villain in the film In the main films

[00:08:32] And This kind of tells his story a little bit And I don't like feeling sympathetic for villains And you kind of do it at the beginning You kind of get to like this guy And then at the end You don't love him as much And so

[00:08:49] I didn't like that part of it You love movies that make you feel sad Yeah but this makes me feel angry Not sad Like just angry because And I think it's kind of perfect for Just like this time To kind of in the way that like the

[00:09:02] Hunger games have become a little more Resonant in recent years Especially after a certain president Kind of fucked things up for everybody And people New Obama New audiences have been finding them again And kind of seeing just like how much

[00:09:18] They hit and kind of touch upon a lot of The complicated issues that we have today And this kind of hits it too because you do You have a person who like You know has been through the ringer Deals with a lot of stuff and they

[00:09:30] They're kind of trying to do right in a way But they keep making the wrong decisions And they keep leaning towards a Path that you don't necessarily want to see them Go on and see Is this about me? Yeah You feel for them but like they're such

[00:09:43] A despicable person You can't help but despise them in the end I get it I would say this Richel Ziggler continues to get better And better at what she does And she's adorable in this Very talented Her songs are catchy She's a phenomenal singer Yeah

[00:09:57] And so I'm liking her more and more I like this film I am not the audience For this film They did not make this film for me And honestly they didn't really make it For me either Because as much as I did like the original Hunger Games movies

[00:10:11] And I mentioned this last When I talked about it after I saw it I could not have given a shit About a movie about President Snow I was like I don't need that movie But I was very pleased with the results Do you mean to say

[00:10:22] And this is not a bit Do you mean to say that It's not for me meaning it's aimed at a teenage audience No it's aimed for people who Love this world Yeah I love the Hunger Games Probably read the book Because it is based on a book

[00:10:34] But that is you It's not But not in the same way though I'm not You're not a super fan I'm not immediately gung-ho Just because something is a Hunger Games movie Like just because something says Hunger Games I'm like ooo good You know that love game of Thrones

[00:10:48] These kind of things There's a whole world of people That just love this Yeah exactly And I'm somebody I liked the Hunger Games Because they were good movies I'm more of a maze runner guy That's not a joke The maze runner movies are fucking great

[00:11:01] No it's not joking you're fantastic But this is also just so you know Because I didn't This is a standalone movie They're not going to have sequels to this Well it's not that they won't They just don't have any planned Cause there's no book Secret Right and initially

[00:11:14] They were planning on doing other Hunger Games movies When there were no other books But then Suzanne Callans was like Well hey I actually want to do this book And they're like oh good We can turn that into a movie How long before the Wains Brothers

[00:11:25] Do like the hangry games Oh they've already done it actually Oh really? I believe it's Friedberg and Seltzer The people who have brought us such great movies As epic movie and date movie Superhero movie and movie Yeah they did a movie called The Starving Games I think

[00:11:37] Really the hangry's right there Starving games Okay So they did So the other film that I saw That I want to talk about Have they been jailed? I mean I hope so Okay The other film I saw That I want to talk about Is The Holdovers

[00:11:52] I don't know if I talked about that last time I don't think I did I don't think you did And I'm glad you brought it up Nate Because I also saw The Holdovers And you know what? Spoiler alert I didn't You should Because

[00:12:04] I'm not sure if he's going to go into my Christmas film I knew it would Paul Giamatti is fantastic in this film We're real quick What does it take for a Christmas home Not to make it into the rotation? It has a full frontal nudity probably

[00:12:17] Yeah I mean Yeah You watch When's the last time a movie did make it? I've seen some like Lifetime Christmas movies that don't make it into Like you know like cheesy kind of There was one with Is Christmas with the cranks In your road to home? No, no

[00:12:32] But like there was one I don't think I watch The Holds often Wait, what? I don't watch The Holds often I thought you said I do watch The Holds often No I've seen The Holds But I don't watch it Multiple times Like once a year at Christmas

[00:12:43] Films that also have emotional meaning to me Prancer I watch Prancer every year It's wonderful life I watch multiple times at Christmas season Because I just ball my eyes out every time Do you like it's wonderful life? Yeah What? He's Potter I mean come on It is

[00:12:59] I don't think I watch The Holds often I mean come on It is I liked it when it was Potter's Will That was a great scene Do we Do you watch all the Santa Claus movies Or just the first one? Oh no I'll watch them Ooh that's rough

[00:13:12] No it is It is But I kind of have a little bit of a crush On Elizabeth Mitchell Okay Famous from Mitchells vs Machines No Okay I like the attempt So they do get worse and worse I have not What's interesting is

[00:13:30] I've not watched the Santa Claus TV show I watched the first couple episodes And it was not bad It kind of felt like a little bit of a return to form To the original movie as far as the comedic tone Because my biggest problem with those movies

[00:13:44] Is they just got extremely cartoonish And just way over the top Who's the SNL cast member that talks shit? Yeah Casey Wilson just recently came out I love this so much And just flat out said that Tim Mellon Was just a little bitch

[00:13:57] Yeah the story she shared is just awful Like you don't look him in the eye Like the classic stuff from like the 60s 70s 80s That you thought you can't get away with anymore Because there's footage And you know like people tweet

[00:14:10] And clearly he's being held to the task here Now how far that'll go It'll go nowhere Oh no of course But it's just her opinion is like Yeah it was so awkward and cringy on set Because you couldn't look at him in the eye

[00:14:21] He would do his take and he would leave We'd be waiting around forever for him to come to set That unprofessional terrible guy Tim Mellon You have to be an ethical decent person To know that you are the most important person

[00:14:33] Because Tim Mellon is the most important person on that set You don't do that show without him And still be a decent person Like Keanu Reeves is a decent person On every set he is And he knows he's also the most important person

[00:14:45] There's also a list of like hundreds of people That are the A-listers that are nice Make sure there's plenty that are dicks But like to take it to that level Where it causes somebody to be like This is the worst single experience I've ever had on a set

[00:14:56] I'm just saying there's A-listers that are nice But also A-listers that can get replaced Tim Mellon cannot be replaced from that He knows he can't be replaced from that And so you have to be a decent person To know that truth And still like

[00:15:11] And he's not a decent person He's just not a decent person How much of a piece of shit do you have to be To realize that you were in a movie Called Galaxy Quest where you were that person Yeah I love Galaxy Quest

[00:15:21] And I love it and he's probably because It's pretty close to home He's playing himself Yeah So anyway the holdovers Paul Giamatti So this film is essentially Three actors is most of the film And it is about Paul Giamatti is a teacher at a private school And

[00:15:44] So let me kind of break it down a little bit So the three main actors are Paul Giamatti I don't know the other names You can look that up Dominic Cessa plays the teenage boy Who's at the school He's new right? I don't think he's been in any

[00:15:57] Yeah I wasn't familiar with him And then Divine Joy Randolph She's been in some stuff This is kind of like a I would say it's like a breakthrough performance But she was in Dolomite is my name And The Lost City Let me say this

[00:16:10] She's great in Dolomite is my name Performance is by Paul Giamatti And I can't remember her name I'm sorry Divine Joy Randolph For me are actually award worthy To be said for a Christmas film And let's be cool This isn't like any normal Christmas film

[00:16:23] This is a film from Alexander Payne Yeah and it is set at Christmas time Who did Sideways Which is what won Paul Giamatti his Oscar And he also did election with Reese Witherspoon He's done some fantastic films So this is kind of a film where

[00:16:34] They've had films before Where essentially you see relationships Being formed based on proximity And that's what happens right But these relationships between Paul Giamatti And the other two characters One of them is a lunch lady The other is a student that's kind of

[00:16:51] You get to see he's got He's a bit of a misfit He's a little bit of a misfit That has a good core to him And so you don't dislike him at all But he doesn't necessarily know where he fits him

[00:17:02] And they become a family to a certain extent So he's doing dickish things But he's not a dick Yeah he's just a little bit of a rascal And really what it is is Paul Giamatti is a teacher He's very rough around the edges

[00:17:13] And it's clear that not a lot of people Are doing very much He's very curmudgeonly He's very smart Yeah doesn't really cut anybody any slack Especially the students And it's clear like Like I said it's a private school So like a lot of the people have wealth

[00:17:26] But this kid doesn't necessarily He's there It's Christmas break His parents don't come and get him His mom and his stepdad I think right Yeah And so he's essentially stuck there But he wants to go see his dad So the whole movie is kind of

[00:17:43] Or at least the second or third act of the movie Is them going to New York City I believe Boston And they find his dad And um Spoiler But the promise Or the journey is certainly the film Right And I just the performances were just Were just wonderful

[00:18:04] This is like one of maybe like It'll probably be a top time film for me For the year This is one of the best performances That Paul Giamatti has given since sideways Cause I think he's great in Traylor Compton And there's a couple other things

[00:18:16] That he's been very good as well But this is just the first like It's a master class The first lead performance in sideways Where I've been just like man He's so good Did you do American Splendor? You did, yeah So you like this a lot too

[00:18:27] Yeah I really dug this a lot too Funnily enough I had a fun theatrical experience That I told Ben about over the weekend Because I did a double feature over the weekend And this was the second movie That I went to see

[00:18:39] I went to the AMC show place Over in South Bend And I sat down Going through the first 10 minutes of the movie And throughout the first 10 minutes This is a quiet movie too Alexander Payne makes these quiet movies All I'm hearing is this Just thundering and thumping bass

[00:18:57] From the theater next door And I'm like okay I guess it'll stop It's just for like probably a scene Or something like that Just relentless It just keeps coming And I go and check And my assumption was that The Beyonce movie was probably playing next door

[00:19:12] And I was right And I was just like Whose decision was this? Like why did you put the Beyonce movie? Put those right next to each other Yeah, and so I was And I got a refund Did you care in this? Because I saw

[00:19:24] I didn't care in it He breaded it No I asked And I was like oh okay It's very loud I was like I don't think it's going to get any better Just because it's a concert movie And so I got the ticket back Because of my AMC stubs

[00:19:35] But the Michigan City Theater Was playing one In very close enough proximity That I made it Did you walk in and go check To see if Beyonce was playing next door? No I just hoped and prayed And I was right It was very quiet and it worked perfectly

[00:19:46] Yeah, what was the other film you saw? I saw Are you done talking about movies? Well no, let me give it one more So I was assigned the movie Spencer It's a film I have not seen I'm going to say this I'm not a huge Kristen Stewart fan

[00:19:58] I don't know why it is I just don't resonate so much with their acting I'm not a Twilight fan or anything like that So I remember this film coming out And just not being excited about it I'm not a huge Royals person No

[00:20:12] And so I can respect that What they go through as far as We elect our leaders in this country They're not born into it I feel terrible for Princess Diana I think she had a terrible life Life? Or just like marriage Well I just

[00:20:32] Her life was very difficult I don't know nothing about it I think it got harder and harder So this essentially is a film that is told About kind of the end of their marriage What kind of precipitates The kind of mental state, emotional state That Diana was in

[00:20:50] It gives you a glimpse of Kind of what's going on in her life The division that she has with the royal family Who is the royal family? Who plays Dodie off head? Why? I'm just asking I don't think anybody did that I mean nobody would know

[00:21:09] I'm just saying like she died in a car crash With her lover, Dodie off head Why do you have this? This is not about that I didn't know that So this is about Let me ask you a question Ben What's your thought process for

[00:21:24] How that's going to land as a joke Well and then I'm also Wondering like was there a scene with Like a I feel like in my head I just said that I don't know anything about her

[00:21:36] But let me ask you about the most tragic part of her life But you did know something A very specific thing that no one knows The name of who she was Everyone knows that name Are you serious? Diana's death was one of the most publicized

[00:21:50] Events that you knew his name Without the John Mulaney bit I genuinely would she die in 1997 1997 or something I think Yeah mid 90s I remember her dying And I had no connections I remember that day I remember my mom watching the TV these days

[00:22:07] I guess the impetus for the joke then was That I assumed that nobody would know the name of her lover And you thought that it was just sound and funny Everyone does So back to the film Well Brad shouldn't ask me those questions

[00:22:18] If he doesn't know any of the answers So back to the film So this is about an event A set time film Where Princess Diana is invited to With obviously Charles Who's in the middle of having an affair With Camilla Bowles who is now his wife And Diana

[00:22:38] Is just in a weird space She knows all this happening But what do you do And they're about to have Christmas together With the Queen Who there's tension Tension with everyone Her friends are typically Maybe slightly more allies Or typically kind of servants People that work for them

[00:22:59] And she doesn't want to do it But what do you do It's kind of just about that It's about the struggle that she lives with About who is she What is she going to do Is this the life that she's going to live Let me say this

[00:23:14] I'm not a fan of Christmas She acts her ass off here She's very very good And I actually really really enjoyed her performance It is not a film that I would have chose to watch It is not That's why I gave it to you I know

[00:23:28] And I'm glad I watched it But it's just I don't know what I think because she died I'm 99% sure she died 1997 Same year my mother died And I just remember Good job, Brad No no it's fine but I just You're right

[00:23:43] It's really upsetting for me to give a movie That came out about a woman Who died the same year that Nate's mom died When he gives me movies about My father all the time I would never give you a film about a dead father

[00:23:53] I didn't know you were petty enough to Just remember that Oh now it's just revenge I thought you were just bigger than that Just wait until I give him Bambi I think though this is why Well we're going to get to family stone in a second

[00:24:05] Because that was the film I gave I gave Ben a dead mom movie But I think that's why I kind of I've cordoned off Princess Diana a little bit Because there is some contextual stuff from my life

[00:24:18] But it is a really good film and I was glad I watched it Yeah I'm in the same boat as you actually were I wasn't a big fan of Kristen Stewart I've liked her in some things I don't think she's a terrible actress

[00:24:28] I don't think she's done a lot that has like Super impressed me In more recent years there are things That I have really enjoyed her in But I also don't give a shit about the royal family Like I could not care less

[00:24:37] I was very aware of Princess Diana And what happened with her and whatnot And you know you hear things Because they're always making headlines Stuff like that It just feels like there's a lot being done With the royal family And fiction stuff With the crown and all that

[00:24:48] But this movie blew me away I was super impressed by it Because it borders on being Like a horror movie at times It's very haunting I think we could be closer to psychological thrill You tricked them into watching a horror film? In a way

[00:25:01] No it's more like a psychological thriller That is hard for me as well I don't Because it is I would say it's not horror It's suspenseful Yeah And it'll stress you out a little bit Absolutely But yeah it is stellar And I do

[00:25:14] And that scene at the end too Where she's driving with her kids I feel like that's such an uplifting Great moment I love that scene Yep I agree So those are essentially the movies That I've watched There you go So I saw The Holdovers As I discussed

[00:25:28] My other movie that I saw was Saltburn Which is the latest movie from Emerald Fennel The director of Promising Young Woman With Carrie Mulligan And this is in a similar vein A dark thriller That has Barry Keogan Playing a student who is going to Oxford

[00:25:47] And he's a bit of an outcast He's kind of like more of a Nerdy kid And he's there on scholarship So everyone there kind of Looks down upon him Because they're all You know rich snobby kids Who are going to fucking Oxford And Jacob Elordi

[00:26:00] Who is a pretty hot young star right now He's also in Purcella He plays Elvis in that movie And he plays this Kid at Oxford Who, Barry Keogan's character Oliver kind of takes a liking to Not only just because he's handsome But he's very personable

[00:26:16] And kind of embraces him a little bit Is that Barry Keogan? Is he from Killing of Sacred Deer? Yes He's the kid And he's in Banshees of Innocharen Gotcha Sorry, I was just trying to place him Yep And so this movie follows Their friendship as it comes together

[00:26:32] And Barry Keogan ends up going to Stay at Jacob Elordi's family's Estate And his family is fucking loaded And they live like on like a house That is like Bruce Wayne's house Basically just fucking huge And so like it's established that Like Barry Keogan's family

[00:26:48] Apparently is kind of messed up And he doesn't really want to go home Or anything like that And he's embarrassed by it And so he tells him to come But like as this progresses Jacob Elordi kind of starts learning That Barry Keogan's character

[00:27:01] Is a bit of a sociopath And it's what we have a very Talented Mr. Ripley Single white female kind of situation And it's really good It is twisted and vicious And Barry Keogan is phenomenal In this movie I just, I really like this a lot It's so good

[00:27:21] Is this something that he might be up for Or something? Yeah, I could see him getting Some award attention for this for sure I would love to see that Because he's great in it Good So yeah, good stuff Anything else? I did, I've seen some other things

[00:27:34] What'd you say? I saw a dream scenario The Nicholas Cage A24 movie This is the movie where Nicholas Cage Kind of plays this hapless professor Who all of a sudden starts showing up In people's dreams Like tons of people around the world

[00:27:50] He just kind of shows up and is there And it's this really kind of The story basically is a way of approaching The idea of like what it's like To quickly become famous And go viral and like what that life

[00:28:02] And it kind of goes through the cycle of it Nicholas Cage's performance is great Just because he really does play kind of like This desperate goober Who is like, he wants to be like Well known for his work as a professor He's trying to write a book

[00:28:15] And so he tries to use this to like Position himself to be able to get a book published And so he deals with this like agency That's Michael Sarah is the head of And like they're trying to position him To like use his fame for something

[00:28:27] And it's really funny It's a great satire It has a bit of darkness to it And he comes from a A24 movie as well But I really like this one too Kage man, you think you've Got him pinned down for doing certain things

[00:28:40] And he's always comes at you with something He just did an interview where he says Done acting in movies. Yeah, I know and he wants to do TV now Because his son showed him Breaking Bad We're gonna watch Breaking Bad and he's like

[00:28:52] I've never really watched television before I didn't realize that's what it can be He's so weird And he sounds so sincere when he says, Like he really did not watch television

[00:29:01] Nicholas Cage, yeah, I will always be in never change. I will always be ever change in the cage What else did I see? Oh, so I didn't get to talk about this last week

[00:29:11] And I couldn't talk about it the week that I saw it because of how embargoes work in the industry But I have seen Wonka folks Wonka comes out this week December 15th in theaters with a Timothy And it's pretty good

[00:29:27] I it's doesn't shake a stick at the original for me because the original is kind of like a holy, you know Movie for me. I love it. I've said this many times. Shallow may is no wilder. No, of course not and to be honest

[00:29:40] Timothy Wow, wow, what a bold prediction. I said that many times Timothy shall am a is the reason that I don't love this movie. I I liked it It's a it does a great origin story about Willy Wonka something that I didn't think that I needed or wanted

[00:29:56] It does some clever things with it. It doesn't do the build a good world It does it does the production design is fantastic The way it establishes Wonka and like as he comes up as a character

[00:30:07] It's it's interesting. It doesn't do the lazy kind of like Easter egg stuff that you would expect What's I go? That's how we got his hat. Oh, that's why his jacket's purple doesn't know that stupid fucking bullshit

[00:30:19] And Hugh Grant as the oompa-loompa that he plays is fantastic. Does he do well because I was a little worried there He's so perfectly dry just like Hugh Grant is and the character is just so like he's a little bit of like a just a

[00:30:30] Rascal and what what he's doing and the way he's a foil for Wonka is good, but Timothy shall am a I Like him as an actor. I think he's pretty good I don't think he's worth all the hype that he's getting right now

[00:30:41] I think he's solid this is not the role for him It always feels like he's pretending to be Willy Wonka and not in a way where like you ever get like lost and like

[00:30:51] Oh, he has become Willy Wonka or this is like it's not just him playing a character like When you see Tom hunk Hank Tom hunks Tom Hanks as force gum He's a bit of a he's a big one. You see Tom Hanks as force gum

[00:31:02] You don't see Tom Hanks You see forest gum, you know like you a good actor disappears in the role Timothy shalame and little women I thought he was yes. He's great Timothy shalame just never feels authentic when he's playing Willy Wonka. There are moments when he shows

[00:31:17] He's like a quirky side or he's being a little goofy and you see these moments in the trailer And when I saw those bits in the trailer, I was like, ooh that is not how I want that to work And it's not better in the movie

[00:31:29] It's not better. He works very well for the emotional core moments because what and what I liked about this movie and where it kind of Overcomes the the original is it has a much stronger emotional core It packs a good heart to it because of how it ties

[00:31:44] To Wonka's mother like she's kind of the impetus for why he wants to be a chocolateeer and one And that's a nice core to have Paul King really like focuses on having a big beating heart in his movie

[00:31:53] Cuz I heard that this is basically it's nothing like the original in that it's like more of a feel-good like Like romp than it is like a dangerous in a way child murdering

[00:32:05] Absolutely, there's there's satire to be found for sure especially about about capitalism and stuff like that But it definitely is Paul King bringing a much more whimsical approach to to roll dolls material And so is this source material from rolled? I mean, it's just the character

[00:32:21] Yeah, that's the character and there are certain elements that they have pulled that were like revealed in either of the books That's right. It wasn't sure yeah, but it's not based on any any single book or anything That it's it's and it feels refreshing the songs are good

[00:32:32] The supporting cast is really what makes it and that's that's another thing that makes Chalamet's performance Not pop very well is the supporting cast members are also good at playing these quirky

[00:32:42] Cartoonish characters who perfectly inhabit this fantastical world that Paul King has created for them to exist in that Chalamet's performance when he's trying to be eccentric and weird It doesn't feel like it's on par and like it's like well

[00:32:54] You're not as unique or like strange as any of these other characters around you like Olivia Coleman As this this woman who like tricks him into like staying in her her hostel

[00:33:02] And he gets stuck in like a contract and he has to stay there and wash laundry in the basement Any of the people who are Hawkins isn't it these are great Well, sadly Hawkins plays his mother in flashbacks

[00:33:11] But like all three of the people who are part of the chocolate cartels slug worth and you know You have Matt Lucas as one of the other ones They're very cartoonish as well and so very good actors. Yeah, everyone is fantastic

[00:33:23] Is this a fair of direction though? It's not a failure of direction I just think that yeah, I mean and partially it is because Paul King cast Timmy the Chalamet I can't you and like well, this isn't working. I need you to be more

[00:33:32] Yeah, and you I think Paul King was satisfied with what Timothy Chalamet did and here's the thing I'm partially in the minority here I have seen lots of people praising Timothy Chalamet and saying how great he was and everything and I wish I saw

[00:33:45] The performance that they did because I just I just did not enjoy him in this role He doesn't ruin the movie for me because of how great the ensemble cast is how good the story is how all these elements

[00:33:56] Around him are very good, but he he brings it down a little bit. He just he just kind of Makes it doesn't pop as much in 2018 when Paul King was in negotiations direct

[00:34:07] They some of the names that they were kind of throwing around for Wonka was they remind me Donald Glover Whoo, I Yeah, Ryan Gosling, you know, I'm so glad you said that because somebody else asked me

[00:34:21] Well, who would you have instead? And I was like well if he was young enough Ryan Gosling I mean you say that for everybody That's because he's a fucking chameleon

[00:34:29] He's amazing you say Ryan Cos every time I say well, who would you Ryan Gosling every time he is And then give me a reason not to the third one I think Ben's gonna be a little more fan of than I am Ezra Miller. Oh

[00:34:42] Yuck although I will say if it was a meal her Snot of it If Ezra Miller didn't have his whole troubled situation Yeah, absolutely. He would have given a great performance as Wonka better than Chalamet. Yes Yeah, I think more like Timothy Charlotte in Boy, but yeah

[00:34:59] Hey, hey, no another one. What do you think about this one? The other one? This is after so this is even more recently because Chalamet was cast in January 2021 So then there was three years between those conversations Paul Giamatti the other one two years Tom Holland I

[00:35:15] Could see that but I could also do you think better than Chalamet? I Think Tom Holland has shown an affinity for comedic stuff that Chalamet hasn't and that's what gives me Thought that he probably would be pretty good But I also I don't know if Holland's

[00:35:31] Pension for comedy has limitations in the same way that Chalamet does say this Holland is a better musician, right? He can do musical theater And that's another thing too

[00:35:41] Chalamet has the same problem that Johnny Depp has in Sweeney Todd in that he does not have a strong enough voice to Lead a musical like this like you need someone who's got like lungs, you know

[00:35:50] You know who does though Ben Ryan Gosling so it's true the thing that I have not been necessarily on the Chalamet train since he's a good looking man I mean, I don't he's fine the reason and this is this is not his fault at all

[00:36:05] But the reason I can't ever believe him as the character is because he has a very distinct lisp To me that I always just think that's Timothy Chalamet That's the thing that doesn't allow me to believe him as the character because it's always the same voice

[00:36:19] He can't get rid of that again. I want to be very clear. This is not a bit It's not his fault and he's in spite of that. I don't even think I don't even think it's a list necessarily It's just it's something about his the way he

[00:36:30] Okay, I'm calling it a list. Yeah, but you know there's a vocal intonation or something Yeah, his delivery does not change no matter what he's doing. Yeah, so while that worked in

[00:36:40] What would you little women right? Yeah, I believed him as that character, but that was the first time I had seen him. It's funny You say that back to my point with Kristen Stewart. That's my problem with Christian Stewart

[00:36:49] It's really hard for me to believe them in the role like Brad said but it to me It's because the flat maybe not even flat delivery is always the same. Yeah

[00:36:58] Yeah, it's just the same delivery right it could be a fine delivery in one way, but it there's no differences You've got to disappear into that role and change your voice to do it. Yeah. Yeah in my opinion

[00:37:08] And he doesn't do that so yeah, but yeah, I like still worth seeing though. I honestly would give it a shot Really wonka? I would give it a shot what it where were we on a rotten tomatoes with it roughly? Oh, I don't know 110% no

[00:37:22] I didn't know if it if it's been Like more than you are initially the react the first reactions that I saw when the social embargo broke

[00:37:29] Where people were pretty high on it. Okay. I haven't I know there were some people who but I because this is the same director That did Paddington right? Yeah both Paddington. Oh, yeah 84% right. Yeah, I'll see it's 100 Yeah, it's certified fresh fuck me right

[00:37:43] No, I kind of agree with you on Timothy Chalamet. I like Timothy Chalamet I didn't even give the movie a negative review either I gave it a seven out of ten and I will say I liked it for the most part

[00:37:55] But Timothy Chalamet brings it down so are you saying then maybe a little bit that you're disappointed because it is a better film Yeah, Timothy Chalamet's not in it Yes, there was a ten out of ten and then shall may bring it all the way down

[00:38:06] Yeah, I mean to that not to say he did but he kind of did right like it was a It'd be maybe an eight or nine if there are several elements of Chalamet's performance that just make the movie drop a bit

[00:38:16] Because Paul King is his name, right? Mm-hmm. He is great at Again, I'm such a big fan of the Paddington films, but he is great at whimsy. Yeah more like gimmicky less shallow I trust him with Wonka pretty good

[00:38:32] Third one's a charm. Okay. No, it's fine. It's fine One more question of red is there anything else you watched? Yes I watched my assigned movie from my good friend Ben Conowitz and that is a movie called Funny Farm

[00:38:44] That is starring Chevy Chase and it's directed by George Roy Hill. What did George Roy Hill direct Ben? George Roy Hill directed the Blues Brothers. He did not okay I did like the confidence in which you said, you know if that was right though

[00:38:57] Yeah, oh, I would have been great I was I was honestly really impressed that you like really quickly fired back Because he directed another movie that you assigned me and I wish you remembered this he directed butch casting the Sundance kid

[00:39:07] Oh, wow. Yeah, and the sting Wow. Yeah, he's a very prolific director and he is crazy directed that I know Yeah, and this is actually his last movie Funny Farm was I mean that makes sense because butch cast is 67 funny farm 96 88 88 Wow

[00:39:24] So this is you got a 20 some your career now Ben I'm gonna give you a little bit of shit about this movie I haven't seen this over a very long time So not because it's bad, but because of the way you sold it to me

[00:39:34] Kind of ruined the ending Really? So and by selling it to you is he just told you the ending But not but I don't think you realize that he was he was doing this so yeah

[00:39:46] Yeah, Ben tell how people how you described the movie. Yeah, so I said this is a movie about a guy that him and his wife buy a house and They immediately realized that the town hates them and they they are just that the work he hates them

[00:40:00] They hate him and so he basically says I've got to sell this house So the movie is about he's paying these townspeople to like act like they like him because there's buyers

[00:40:10] That are gonna buy this house and he's got to make sure that it's a dillock, you know Like we're gonna release a deer in the backyard on a perfect snowy winter's day

[00:40:19] And it's gonna be perfect and then we'll get the fuck out of town because you hate us And you'll get new people that you might like that's how I described it to Brad So what Ben just described you is the last 20 minutes

[00:40:32] Because it's so long I don't remember that I thought that was the whole movie So I spent like most of this movie. You know when the fuck Actually very happy oh my god, that's so great so Brad now okay

[00:40:46] I want you right now. What is the first 80% yeah about So what this movie is actually about it kind of is in a similar vein of the burbs where Chevy Chase And and his his girlfriend wife wife they move oh, yeah

[00:41:02] They move from the city to a farm in will know where he's been a successful sports journalist But he just got an advance to write a novel They're moving to this nice farm called Redbud and they're gonna spend their time there

[00:41:12] He's gonna write his book everything's gonna be great They get there and it's not it's not terrible like there's a few things that go wrong They have some mishaps in town, but by no means does anybody in the town really hate him

[00:41:25] There's a couple of people who are frustrated with the mailman immediately the mailman doesn't hate them. He's just crazy But then this is me remembering There's there's a fishing debacle that happens But like they don't they don't have like an outright horrible relationship with everything in town

[00:41:40] But it's just it's they come to not really enjoy it But the real crux of it is why this happens is because while they're there He doesn't write a good book his wife ends up hating it. That's right And she writes us successful children's book

[00:41:54] She reads it and like does tells him that yeah, it's bad and it's that seems hilarious too Yeah, and so but then she while she's been there She's been writing this children's book that gets bought and she gets in advance and he gets frustrated by it

[00:42:05] So he kind of starts sabotaging and making things bad That that does come into play later though where they they want to get a divorce and so they have to sell the house

[00:42:13] They're not selling it because everyone hates sorry see but but but now I want to see that movie Where they do move somewhere and like they do piss off everybody I'm like, okay

[00:42:23] Well, we got to figure this out and like so half the movie is them trying to like convince everyone remake funny farm Sorry, right Ryan Gosling. There you go. I would I would love it

[00:42:31] But yeah, so I did enjoy this movie though. There's some really great slapstick comedy elements in this It's Chevy Chase so so so obviously everybody else Jeffy But the reason that I remember liking it a lot is because there's nobody that plays a lovable asshole

[00:42:45] Yeah, he was at the top of his game at this point And so to watch the neighbors interact with them and like just this passive aggressive Like this smile that you're saying hey fucking asshole. Yeah, she does that better than anybody

[00:42:56] Yeah, he has a little bit of that in Christmas vacation as well. Oh, of course 100% I remember liking a lot so I told Brad though one of the reasons that I like this movie a lot when I think it was formative for my business career

[00:43:07] Because I remember the transactional Relationship that he had with the town was like I'm gonna pay you and we're gonna make this perfect for the buyer It was like in my head even in his young age when I saw I saw this

[00:43:18] Probably when I was on VHS in like the early 90s I was right 11 or 12 I just remember thinking how perfect it was they're like, oh you can make a plan come together And you can pay people and this will happen

[00:43:28] I remember thinking that at the time and that was probably one of the first times I thought I want to get into business But yeah, it's it's very funny and like I Do wonder what it would like to watch it not thinking it's sorry man

[00:43:42] What is gonna happen? I wasn't upset by about just like oh, that's that's weird. That's how he remembered this Yeah, that's crazy. So from now on if I want to Give you a movie that is more than 20 years old. I should watch it first

[00:43:56] Yeah, I still I still liked it it was it was an enjoyable movie. I'm glad I thought awesome awesome What have you seen Ben? I wrote them all down because it's been a couple weeks and I actually did you know

[00:44:04] I did I did the work. I did the work this time around guys So I watched Super Mario Brothers. Oh Finally, yeah, I got around to it. And what do you think? You know what? It's better than Brad and I'm not being a dick

[00:44:18] No, it is better than you laid it out to my boys love this You were disappointed in it and I thought that it was better than that. I thought that there was enough I don't know there was enough

[00:44:28] Like Jack Black as Bowser is incredible. He's I love Jack Chris press not bad. He's not great, but he's not bad I do like that they established early on in the commercial He's putting on a voice and that's not his real voice that worked for me

[00:44:42] I do agree that it could have been there could have been more adult like Comedy stuff that wouldn't have ruined it for kids But at the same time there was so much side scrolling stuff that was so cool

[00:44:53] Like I remember obviously Mario is a side scroller like you just go left to right and there were so many cool visuals about that I really love the visuals. Yeah, so I know

[00:45:03] I just there was enough good about it that that it made up for the lack of like real plot and like how quickly they Jumped did you have fun watching it? I think that's why a lot of people liked it

[00:45:14] It was just fun. And it was just I get it though like You know the interaction between Mario and Princess Peach was like three seconds She's like well, let's go on an adventure. Like there's no real like development. It's terrible

[00:45:25] But be even despite that though. I still had a good time watching it So it was and honestly our 30 minutes is exactly how long they're gonna be I was happy with it overall I mean it it is The I mean it's at top five

[00:45:40] Revenue film for this year. Yeah, it's one of the big ones No, I mean I get why right? It was it was good enough have you seen spider-man across the spider? Okay, so watch that you'll see what a real animated movie

[00:45:50] But that's not really that is the same audience at all. It is I mean but that is a fantastic film It's not named it's not aimed at six to nine year olds. Yeah, it hundred percent. I Think it's more there's way more thematic

[00:46:03] Sure, it's made for a slightly more matured, but they're exactly but I my audience Brittany Brittany sister has kids Who are five and six and they fucking love those movies? Well, they also like Super Mario Brothers. Yeah, cuz they're both flashing lights

[00:46:14] They don't understand anything so yeah, you can't oh so all kids are stupid now. Yes five this five here that Nate Five to six rolls you could play not a kid

[00:46:21] You if you put if you put Schindler's list in full technicolor and just like had a bunch of flashing lights I'd like I love Schindler's list. I just they don't care. I don't think that's true What else you watch anyway?

[00:46:35] I watched a movie that Brad forgot about that we saw together in Utah called silent. Oh, yeah That's that's the other one. I Who who's in that Joel Kenan Kenan Kenaman? Yeah, John Woo movie So it's like Joel Kenaman if you don't know is captain flag from

[00:46:53] Suicide Squad more importantly. He's a Robocop in the Robocop remake. Well, let's just forget about that because I did So I like Suicide Squad actually in the very very serviceable and hey, it's good So so this movie I unfortunately You know

[00:47:14] Bought into the hype on Twitter about how good it was and there's a John lose return to form There are 20 things in this film that I've never seen before and wow

[00:47:24] So I went there and sat there like well. I'm waiting for the first one and we're 90% through the movie. It's fine It's just it's a John Wick want to be I said we got out of the theater and I don't even know the I said oh

[00:47:36] Randy candle yeah is here Because it's basically that it's like what if John Wick wasn't an assassin What if he was just a guy who tried to train himself after his kid gets killed and he has to go after like this L7

[00:47:49] Mafia or whatever Latino gang. It's a revenge film right fine I am such a revenge film nerd though that this is nowhere near the top I mean, I've seen I've literally seen 10 to 15 revenge films that are way better than this sure and it's and John Woo

[00:48:06] Does a good job and Kim is fine. It's not a bad film. It's not a bad film It's enjoyable. It's fine the other thing that you said that I totally agree with and that's kind of like my sticking point for The criticism is that?

[00:48:17] We're in a post John Wick world exactly and like it's really hard to match out of quality of action Even when you're John Woo and honestly, I mean choreography just in John Wick alone. It's just amazing I will say that I

[00:48:29] Want to hear it doesn't speak to how bad these are it's to speak to how good the John Wick universe is Yeah, those directors and that actor specifically are so good at what they do

[00:48:41] It really does make it hard for an all-time. I mean maybe the best action director of all time I mean those fight scenes in the killer and in the shootout scene. They're in Incredible indelible he can't even compete now with John Wick

[00:48:56] Yeah, it's it's changed the game for real and the last time we saw something change the game that much as far as filmmaking in a Genre was to me the Matrix it changed the way things were shot the bullet time became

[00:49:08] You know a joke by the time Shrek came out or whatever Shrek 2 3 whatever but in the moment it changed the genre and John Wick changes genre. That's all it was so that's why Silent Night doesn't work as well as we would have hoped to

[00:49:21] But it was still serviceable. It was fine. Yeah, me and Ben had a couple fun like running gag. Oh my god I was leaning in I mean what was okay

[00:49:28] What was the one the best that the what the my favorite one was that was that he he smashes this like voice thing he gets Cuz so so he gets shot in the throat

[00:49:35] He can't talk throughout the movie. So I know so I will say that is different like he gets shot the throat And he doesn't say word the entire film He's the whole movie is almost dialogue for you basically in the same way that no one will save you

[00:49:45] But then Beyonce was in the theater next to us But no so he smashes like the voice thing that like you can hold up to your throat So you can talk and honestly he opens the box and it looks very bespoke and just very like

[00:49:55] Expensive as fuck right? And yeah, he just throws it down. I just go that was five thousand dollars And then there's two other instances where like he broke something And it was of course he like threw a popsicles thing that was

[00:50:11] So we had a great time with that kind of stuff but Brad and I have a great time every time We really do we're just a couple friends. I saw a mission impossible dead reckoning part one Mm-hmm not as good as fallout

[00:50:22] Of course still a very serviceable mission impossible be it's I just I don't know why it's got 96% of rotten tomatoes. It's not as it's not as good as that. It's way too long there are a Few confounding things in the movie specifically

[00:50:39] This is not a spoiler in the beginning of the film There is an AI program that eventually will corrupt they say it will get into our servers Nate which looking me in my face Because I want you I want your opinion

[00:50:57] This AI is they say in the film It will eventually get into our data servers and it will then be able to change what we read So we won't know the truth from from fake news basically, right?

[00:51:09] So their response here is that has not happened yet. It will happen. So you cut to a scene of 1000 CIA agents typing on manual typewriters and My my question is why don't they just hit print?

[00:51:26] Because it hasn't happened yet. They know it hasn't they've said it it hasn't happened yet But eventually it will happen So just hit the print and print all the documents out and then keep them in so why are you manually?

[00:51:37] Reading them off of a computer screen and typing it made no sense to me Yeah, that is what we call in the industry a plothole Yeah, big one and that came in the first 20 minutes

[00:51:46] And that's if I had to solve that by like trying to come up with an explanation Like if I were the person who's like tasked with doing that I would say that even if the AI isn't doing that yet

[00:51:55] If the AI realized what they were doing like why they were printing out that stuff Then the AI could conceivably fuck up what they're doing like do it quicker

[00:52:04] Yeah, and stop them from being able to do that. That's you know what they should have had one sentence in the film That said that like why but why don't we just hit print?

[00:52:13] Okay, the movies already two hours and 37 minutes long and now it's 238 minutes. We're good. All right, so fair enough, right? But no the train scene was great one thing that Brad and I talked about was I Don't love that this has become hey here is

[00:52:30] 37 minutes of a documentary about the stunt that everybody's gonna see It's it's prominently displayed in the trailer. Yeah, and the whole time I'm watching the scene in the movie where it's there's no build up all over you now

[00:52:42] Now it's there's build up in the movie if you are living under a rock But in the film as a guy that's seen I watched the behind the scenes documentary I watched all the trailers

[00:52:52] I'm waiting for him to get up the mountain like me Benji and everybody else in the audience knows what's about to happen Tom Cruise's character is the only one that doesn't know this is boring because I'm just waiting for you to do the stunt

[00:53:03] Yeah, that's a good point of over killing that that stunt that they were very very proud of and I get it It's a great stunt. Yeah, but but release that Don't yeah, right like because they released it like three months before the film came out

[00:53:16] The first time that I've watched a missing impossible where I'm going because even even watching Tom Cruise in a trailer Hanging onto the yeah, they didn't explain how they did it. They didn't do or at least I didn't see it

[00:53:25] Yeah, and even if it was like you said even if it wasn't just the trailer They released so much more than that though. They released the behind the scenes they released You know and it became a part of a commercial

[00:53:36] It was it was everywhere was too much and then last but not least I watched my my assigned movie by my good friend Naila and I Christmas movie. I think we're good friends. We are right

[00:53:47] Well, yeah, give you a good film because you gave me the family stone. Yeah, we correct you know because you told me And I quote correct you know since this is a Christmas movie. Yeah, that I think you'll like yeah

[00:53:58] I do Brad he said this is a Christmas movie that I'll think you like and and here's the thing This is the saddest Most cringe-worthy movie. Oh Most cringe-worthy. It's so it's so crazy. It's not crazy I mean there there's some there's some

[00:54:15] There's some tropiness up there, but like it's not cringe-worthy. No, it's not cringy because the characters are so good It's cringe-worthy because no one acts like that. This is a bad movie like oh, I don't know about that Dermot Mcdillet or whatever he is

[00:54:30] Dermot Mcdillet Dylan Dylan Mcgruny Sturmit Mulroney. Yeah him He is the worst Character why is he the worst? He doesn't at all immediately fight for his Evidently the woman he's gonna marry he lets her get just needled by this horrible family

[00:54:51] Over and over he finally like steps into a stool and goes back to golf like 45 minutes into the film It's like you're a bad boyfriend. The family is fucking terrible Everybody's just so shitty to her. She's terrible

[00:55:07] There's not one redeeming person in this except the guy that was a love interest for parts of recreation Amy polar Yeah, he's the only redeemable character in this maybe maybe the deaf guy Mark Brandon wits

[00:55:17] Yeah, Mark. I know it's maybe and maybe the deaf guy and his boyfriend, but Richard Mcdann is cute Yeah, I was gonna say a terrible person, but she's cute. Yeah, she looks really cute

[00:55:25] And and she wearing glasses the worst the worst part about this little feisty. Yeah, like that I like a little feisty Rachel Mcgown. She's not a little feisty. She's a bitch Feisty, and that's why I like it

[00:55:36] Listen as somebody who likes people that make fun of them and and and take you down a peg And I love that out of ladies Oddly attracted wrap up a very good bridge too far. Okay, no terrible terrible. I think correct. He knows it's a great dad he's

[00:55:53] Fine don't ever make fun of correct. He knows and it's coach so Dabber Thank you, it's great in this here's here's the worst part of this film it spoiler alert from 20 years ago it ends So in the middle of film

[00:56:11] we find out that Jessica Sarah Jackson partners character hates gay people and so When we find that out she doesn't hate yeah, she didn't hate gay people. She just doesn't she's just not woke

[00:56:22] Yeah, she doesn't know how to deal with it really she just doesn't she says things that she shouldn't say They're not they're not normal, you know, they're just not normal Why wouldn't you want a normal child and so instead of them being like

[00:56:35] I feel like that was a conversation. Yeah, that was a normal conversation at the time. I don't care I know I'm just saying I don't think they were trying to make her a big it Yeah, for that family though

[00:56:44] It was normal and so at the end of the fucking movie Yeah, she ends up still in the family not with a different guy the guy she thought she fucked But nobody has a problem with her still being there even though the elephant the room is like

[00:56:56] Oh, I still don't think that those two people are normal So I don't think I think her perspective They didn't have her grow as a character enough her didn't say like I am never it never ended up 20 minutes later that she

[00:57:08] Apologized for that but her per her perspective isn't that they're not normal and so they're bad It's that it means that like their kid will have a more difficult life Which was a fairly common thing that people yeah exactly argument for it because again

[00:57:22] You're going down this path and there's that at that point This is a path a little bit that you're choosing yeah It's why why would you want to bring a child into environment?

[00:57:30] That will be inherently more difficult for them because of the as a parent doesn't it make you sad because it's gonna be harder Right. Yeah, so instead of taking two minutes in the film to you know explain Oh why Diane Keaton is being so bitchy towards

[00:57:42] Sarah Jackson Barrow's character because like or why a coach should come over and say like Have a have an aside like he is the one by the way that in this moment in this film could have pulled her aside

[00:57:53] Hey, it's not a choice. It's not that and they could have that real conversation because that's what the family Yeah, this is not a Hallmark film though This is a film based in real reality when but it's not based on real because none of those are real reaction

[00:58:05] No, I just I just I guarantee you that more real than a lifetime movie where yeah There are there are families who like they have conversations like this called the lox's think this way Yeah, no, but I get it

[00:58:14] But then also Dylan McDermott's character would have been like doing immediately Oh fucking immediate would have stood up for like in the moment where it got awkward he would have said like I don't know I know a lot of guys

[00:58:27] You're not this person they let it ride so you're not this person and that's why it's Christmas You're not this person so you wouldn't do that, but there are no people. Yeah There are definitely men who in their family

[00:58:36] They can't stand up to their family in that way because they just don't have the strength. Are you fucking serious? I think you're There's a layer here that you're missing for Diane Keaton's character who is dying dying and I think she's mourning her death and and I think

[00:58:54] People there don't know she's dying right they so it's so I think no horn I think that's why I added complexity to Diane Keaton's characters because she knows and Craig Dean Elson knows There's a scene where she says no to giving him the ring, right? Yeah

[00:59:09] I want to give grandma's ring to my I'm gonna answer. I have done enough weddings where that has actually happened and in that scene I love Diane Keaton because she knows she's dying. She knows in her heart It's not the right woman for him and that scene works

[00:59:23] She's not being a bitch or bitchy in that scene She's just being real but everything else in this film feels so over-the-top and not necessary Like Rachel McAdams character. It's goes so so above me on it I

[00:59:39] Were supposed to believe that Rachel McAdams is just a squirky fun thing But like the thing they did in the Shraids thing where she points to it Like she makes her feel so terrible about like kind of gesturing towards a black that's not what would really have

[00:59:52] I just I was it was it took me on them film so many times There were so many Unbelievable things that happened here where you can do it in a better way that is more nuanced and never had in-laws

[01:00:01] That didn't like you did you never because I'm Ben Connell. It's come on. He's never had in-laws. Yeah They're terrible. I don't know what I don't think you're I don't think you're completely wrong that there

[01:00:11] There's certainly some Hollywood. I will admit I will admit that I I'm not that person So it's not it's not like because what I might my problem is I put myself into these roles and say what would I do?

[01:00:21] And when I don't agree with what they're doing I pushed back. I'm like, that's cringy I would just explain myself away. I get that but you guys should admit a little bit that everything is in this film

[01:00:31] The characterization is so heightened and so weird and over the top. Let me give you too much in a way sure But I I Knowing and hearing about family drama from other people that I know and things like that

[01:00:44] Some of the stuff that happens here is not as out of the ordinary as you think you haven't experienced it because your family's not Like that but I will talk. That's what I mean That's what I mean

[01:00:53] I've talked to a lot of people who have had plenty of situations like like this All right, so if you are listening to this right now, I'm seriously I'm seriously you guys

[01:01:04] If you're listening is right now, please don't you don't have to comment publicly because maybe you don't want to But send go flicks yourself a Facebook message and just say I think that this is more spot-on

[01:01:17] To an actual family or you agree with me and you say you're right No one acts like this. I really do want to have like a couple of responses

[01:01:27] I need to know if I'm right or if Brad's right Roger Ebert says he agrees with me too. No, we don't talk about that I recommend but Roger you know you recommend this is very sad depressing and cringy film you hate me it's been a hard year

[01:01:43] Roger Ebert said this he says this film is silly at times He gave it a three out of four stars a silly at times leaning towards the screwball tradition of everyone racing around the house At the same time in a panic fueled by serial misunderstandings

[01:01:55] However, there's also a thoughtful side involving the long and loving marriage of civil and Kelly So he recommends the film and it is complex It is it has a little bit and maybe it leans one in some scenes

[01:02:08] It leaves a little hard on on some of the screwball enos or maybe you know But it's a movie too and but there's I think the performances are good There it's it's and it ends in a way that I was happy with so

[01:02:22] Well, I've never agreed with Roger Ebert once and I don't agree with her now Fine fine Family Stone 10 out of 10 highly recommend Not awkward at all people it's a it's a perfect example of what people actually do And people everybody learns a lesson Especially Ben

[01:02:50] That's it. That's all I watch that's it So we've got some trailers and we did watch some trailers and I know that we have to do a trailer song so Ben if you want Get on that train

[01:03:09] It's beginning to look a lot like trailers train with Brad and Nate and Ben Sometimes we're gonna watch and sometimes we're gonna listen this and then We'll talk okay. I think you forgot how the song

[01:03:26] I applaud the effort. I do like that. Yeah, I like it. You do a song. You're not a lot of shit on me We support each other All right, what are you guys want to talk about first? Let's talk about Godzilla X Kong the new

[01:03:43] Well, how do you pronounce that? No, no, it's pronounced Godzilla Twitter Kong. Oh, no What is it what is Godzilla versus Kong They would have used verse again, but they didn't I don't know if it's got like Godzilla by Kong or Godzilla with Kong

[01:03:59] Yeah, it's multiplication guys. It's Godzilla times Kong. That's a good point the new emperor The new Empire So this is the latest in the more recent stream of Godzilla and King Kong movies Following Godzilla Godzilla King of the monsters

[01:04:14] King Kong school Island and Godzilla versus Kong. This is the latest continues the story Picks up the the thread of the Hollow Earth from Godzilla versus Kong where there is basically a whole other Existence under the surface of planet earth, which is where

[01:04:31] Various Kaiju have come from and this expands it to where there's a new threat and Godzilla and Kong will have to team up to fight it There is a baby Kong. There's a new villainous baby Villainous ape who has some kind of skeleton bandolier

[01:04:47] This this looks why this is outrageous Yeah, this is crazy kind of stuff and honestly I'm not upset about it because I kind of like when they bring a little bit of that like heightened sci-fi fantasy aspect to Godzilla because

[01:05:02] Godzilla was grounded initially the one with Brian Cranston Kong school Island is is mostly grounded even though it digs into a little bit more fantasy adventure territory Godzilla King of the monsters

[01:05:14] Kept mostly grounded added more monsters wasn't as good as it should have been and then Godzilla versus Kong started veering into like Okay, we're getting a little wackadoo now This looks too wackadoo for me. I don't know there's a certain level of wackadoo where I'm like, okay

[01:05:30] I also didn't like this trailer there was the part where it like it goes quiet And then it comes back full-force. It was a weird Weird edit and also then felt very video game-ish to me like so the weird edit let's talk about that just very quickly

[01:05:44] I know that's very specific. Yeah The weird edit became when they they let Godzilla ramp up his pink spine stuff for way too long You know if it would have started and then it would have cut They let it go for like three or four seconds of Whoa

[01:06:06] I understand the the impetus behind what they did because it does if you watch the beginning of the trailer again It echoes the yeah, yeah, I get that it does feel weird. Don't do it

[01:06:18] I didn't feel like the trailer gave me I like actually the groundedness of the early films I like I liked that part of it But it just I don't know there was nothing about this that made me want to see it

[01:06:29] There was no plot in here that no, so okay Let me also and this is meant to be the teaser. So like they're not giving the story yet Sorry, so I was gonna say the exact same thing

[01:06:38] I like this trailer because I don't know what the fuck's going on Yeah, and I love that about trailers these days too many times I'm like well, that's the whole movie and I hope that they lean into this more words like we don't know

[01:06:48] Here's all the characters in just Disperate, you know situations that we don't know it'll come together in the film go see it I'm sure people like get excited when they see Godzilla spewing fire. Okay, it's not fire

[01:07:00] It's called atomic breath. Okay, but it doesn't excite me. It's just it's just like okay, so what? We're wrong. So it's okay. I'm doing a you know acting his butt off sure

[01:07:09] Um, I let them fight. I'm interested in this just because I like seeing Godzilla and Kong together in this form You know, it looks like it could be a lot of fun Also Kong's got a bionic arm For some reason I'm very curious about that

[01:07:23] I mean I maintain my explanation for is that it's some kind of containment unit that he broke out of and it's still stuck to his hand But now he can use it as a metal arm

[01:07:30] I think that it's just he really became a genius and gave him a metal arm sure I'd be down for that and it's well. It's gold instead of blue So it's card Cubs and you know, it doesn't work. They're right. I'm out. Yeah. Well do it Do it

[01:07:42] Uh, so you guys are gonna see this in the theater. Oh, yeah, of course I'll see this in theaters. Okay, not me. I love seeing that monsters fight All right, true other one Furiosa a mad max saga hell to the Yes

[01:07:55] I mean, what's there not to like on this just right Just if you were listening to this and you haven't seen the trailer you pause the podcast you watch the trailer And we don't even need to talk about it. And guess what?

[01:08:06] I'll stick it a step further if uh, if you haven't watched the trailer you go watch the trailer and you're like Oh, this isn't for me. Uh, just stop with this podcast. Yeah, we're not we're not

[01:08:14] Yeah, this is just just go away. Yeah, it's fantastic. Chris Hemsworth popping up like that is incredible Taylor joy is in this um, yeah, Chris Hemsworth who listeners will know Brad would say for all the people you've interviewed in Hollywood

[01:08:26] Is the most beautiful person you've interviewed correct? Very handsome man in person. Yeah, so Bonerific He's almost unrecognizable in this movie that the nose that he's wearing is the very first cut to him, right? Yeah, like who is that? Definitely was like, is that a care? Oh

[01:08:43] Like again like one second later. You can't miss those baby blues though. Yeah, it's it's chris Hemsworth, but immediately I'm like, oh Yeah, and it looks like he's not just a big beefhead, but like he's kind of got some some funny in there too

[01:08:54] I was like, oh, that's the guy from black hat. He is great He is he's fantastic. But yeah this I'm so on board for this. I love mad max fury road It's one of the best action movies of the 21st century

[01:09:05] It is just incredible and so I'm very excited to see what this is like. I will say I I feel like the oh now shut on it the action sequences It's the best thing ever and you know, this trailer is incredible I will say Little amateur to me

[01:09:24] So if you watch mad max fury road You don't really see where there are obvious visual effects and stuff like that a lot of it It's a trailer brand I know but there are a lot of shots in this that feel like they are more

[01:09:37] Visual effects heavy and they look more artificial than what was saw in mad max fury road I kind of felt that way about the Godzilla trailer. Well, that's that's that makes sense

[01:09:46] But yeah, but yeah, so there's there's a there's a visual style cut to Godzilla and Kong where it's an actual monkey And a gila monster fighting and you're like, yeah, no, this is what I'm before there's an there's like this is fake

[01:09:58] I think that if you compare some of the action shots in this trailer to some of the stuff in the movie You'll see how much more practical we want for your road looks by the way, Hollywood if you're listening, please

[01:10:08] Yeah practical whatever you can and and and and Ben is partially right It could be because it is a trailer and the visual effects don't always look finished

[01:10:15] But I think even just this just the visual style on the one the one saving grace is that this still is a George Miller movie So maybe he's trying some stuff and that's I'm perfectly fine with that and there's still time this comes out

[01:10:26] The Godzilla times Kong comes out April 12th and very until I know what it's called. I'm calling it that and Furiosa comes out May 24th So there's still some time to work on those types of yeah, but you're right Brad to your point George Miller is very practical

[01:10:41] In this in his filmmaking and I I'm very much looking forward to this film I honestly I might be looking forward to this film in 2024 more than any other film. What about fall guy?

[01:10:49] That looks great, but this looks very sad for the fall guy fantastic. Did you know fall guy stars Ryan Gosling? He should be in a lot more things So yeah, that's Also, we should we should bring back a recast I want to do a recast again

[01:11:05] We can do a recast sometime. Hey, we used to do this thing where we just recast movies All right. Yeah, we would do it with like a modern cast of who you'd like top gun

[01:11:13] But like who would you pick now? Yeah, we do some that I mean I ask you guys Yeah, like a full film a full film movie. Yeah. Yeah. They'd be fun. I want to bring that back Yeah, we can do that next podcast. I love it

[01:11:24] So thanks for listening guys. We love talking about movies. We hope that you like hearing about movies Um, you know, it's it's always fun just to hear from you guys

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[01:11:48] Whatever we never did whatever episode we're on we're actually one episode behind because we never did it It's funny because our other podcast the 10 to 1 I told you guys last week I said guys we're coming up on 50 real soon

[01:11:56] We should do something fun for it and then I went to edit it and we're at 51 already. Yeah, exactly Whoopsie doodle It gets away from you quickly Uh, so yeah, so, you know, it'll be nice to do something. I just don't know if we we have the

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